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Commentary on Federalist #9

Commentary on Federalist #9

Commentary on Federalist #9

In Federalist #9, Hamilton addressed how Union would be a guard against the danger of factions arising among the people and would also guard against potential insurrection rebellion. These are two of the areas that every government must address. How can a republican government, based on majority will, prevent groups forming that would oppress the rights and liberties of others? Also, how does a government committed to freedom and democratic principles prevent rebellions from arising and how does it quell them when they do? For Hamilton the answer was found in the union between the states as one nation under the Constitution.

The text of Federalist No. 9.

“A firm union will be of the utmost moment to the peace and liberty of the states, as a barrier against domestic faction and insurrection.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #9. The Utility of the Union as a Safeguard against Domestic Faction and Insurrection. Online version, p. 37 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

The union between the states would prevent domestic factions and insurrections from forming in the first place. The government would not just deal with these things but would put barriers in the way of them so that they were less of a risk. These things could still occur but they would be more restrained under a union between the states than a separation of the states. The expansion of the size of the republic to all the states under one, powerful federal government would, according to Hamilton, protect against these risks. The fact that the final push for the Constitutional Convention came from a local insurrection—Shay’s Rebellion—this was a subject that had to be addressed.

“It is impossible to read the history of the petty republics of Greece and Italy, without feeling sensations of horror and disgust at the distractions with which they were continually agitated, and at the rapid succession of revolutions, by which they were kept perpetually vibrating between the extremes of tyranny and anarchy.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #9. The Utility of the Union as a Safeguard against Domestic Faction and Insurrection. Online version, p. 37 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

History revealed that ancient republics had many revolutions within them which were followed by the formation of a new type of government. The government would still be a form of a republic but it eventually fell into one of two extremes. Hamilton said that this would probably be read by students of history with “horror” and disgust.

What Hamilton observed is that these republican governments were beset by factions in which the majority or even a powerful minority interest infringed on the rights of the others. Eventually a group would rise up to overthrow tyrannical government but that government would be replaced by a government of anarchy that had no order or safety and, therefore, had to safety for liberty. Following that type of government, the people would welcome in a ruler to introduce and keep order but this led to tyranny again. This was a cycle that seemed impossible to escape.

We have made not of the dichotomy between liberty and security before in previous papers. That is a dichotomy that every government has to address. Similarly, there is a dichotomy between tyranny that keeps order and freedom that brings anarchy.

Republicans were especially vulnerable to this because they introduced freedom but were based on the will of the popular majority or even a plurality. This means that one portion of a political society can restrict the freedom of others through simply gaining power in a larger group.

“If they exhibit occasional calms, these only serve as short-lived contrasts to the furious storms that are to succeed.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #9. The Utility of the Union as a Safeguard against Domestic Faction and Insurrection. Online version, p. 37 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Hamilton said that the chaos that came in those republics and others were the norm rather than the exception. In times where republics were not either under tyranny or in anarchy they were moving in one direction or the other. Like a swinging pendulum, the republicans would be in the middle at some point but they would not remain there for long.

“If now and then intervals of felicity open themselves to view, we behold them with a mixture of regret arising from the reflection, that the pleasing scenes before us are soon to be overwhelmed by the tempestuous waves of sedition and party rage. If momentary rays of glory break forth from the gloom, while they dazzle us with a transient and fleeting brilliancy, they at the same time admonish us to lament, that the vices of government should pervert the direction, and tarnish the lustre, of those bright talents and exalted endowments, for which the favoured soils that produced them have been so justly celebrated.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #9. The Utility of the Union as a Safeguard against Domestic Faction and Insurrection. Online version, p. 37 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

In extremely vivid language, Hamilton said that even when republican governments enjoy a brief period of peace from these things that their enjoyment would be mixed with dread for what was about to come. Those times of pleasantness would soon return to times of upheaval. Hamilton said that there were two hallmarks of those times: sedition and party rage. Sedition refers to plots against the government and a plan to rebel. Party rage refers simply to fighting between the parties and their attempts to silence each other.

Hamilton—using symbolic language—said that those peaceful times in republican governments should be understood as the sun breaking through storm clouds briefly that would soon be replaced again by darkness and rain. While it can be enjoyed for the time it also reminds people of their condition and how the government would eventually end the enjoyment of it and that the peace was only temporary.

In short, the republican form of government was its own worst enemy. It could only keep the people in a state of both liberty and security, between chaos and tyranny, temporarily. The rest of the time was spent preparing for and reacting to forms of the two extremes. The ultimate shortcoming of these republicans governments that were so admired in history was that they could not overcome themselves because the nature of the institutions did not guard against it.

“From the disorders that disfigure the annals of those republics, the advocates of despotism have drawn arguments, not only against the forms of republican government, but against the very principles of civil liberty.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #9. The Utility of the Union as a Safeguard against Domestic Faction and Insurrection. Online version, p. 37 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Since republican government was so unstable because it allowed the majority to rule without any constraints, it was easy for tyrants to make their arguments against republican government to gain power. Tyrants always gain power by promising to restore order. People are even willing to give up rights and liberties for the sake of stability, security, and safety. Tyrants are even able to argue against the people having rights and liberties at all. Since there are so many issues that have arisen in free governments tyrants have denied the whole idea of free government.

“They have decried all free government, as inconsistent with the order of society, and have indulged themselves in malicious exultation over its friends and partisans. Happily for mankind, stupendous fabrics reared on the basis of liberty, which have flourished for ages, have in a few glorious instances refuted their gloomy sophisms.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #9. The Utility of the Union as a Safeguard against Domestic Faction and Insurrection. Online version, p. 37 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

When republican governments failed because of their structural inability to live up to the principles and values that they espoused and their inability to keep order, leaders who would become tyrants entered the scene and spoke out against all free government. Because of all the issues involved with those republican governments, impactful arguments were made against republican government altogether. They convinced the people that the very idea was impossible. By doing this successfully leaders could rise above other citizens, gain power, and introduce despotism.

The good news, according to Hamilton, is that people have never totally given up their belief in freedom and republican principles. It was a benefit to all people, all humanity, that people never bought the argument that free government was a myth that could never be realized in the real world.

“And, I trust, America will be the broad and solid foundation of other edifices not less magnificent, which will be equally permanent monuments of their error.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #9. The Utility of the Union as a Safeguard against Domestic Faction and Insurrection. Online version, pp. 37-38 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Hamilton hoped and believed that the people of America would refute the idea that a real and free government could not exist. Not only that, but he hoped that America would be a foundation for other nations to build on because it would have proved that republican government is truly possible and can be accomplished. The goal would not be that America would do this temporarily but would forever stand as a symbol of the reality of republican principles.

“If it had been found impracticable to have devised models of a more perfect structure, the enlightened friends of liberty would have been obliged to abandon the cause of that species of government as indefensible.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #9. The Utility of the Union as a Safeguard against Domestic Faction and Insurrection. Online version, p. 38 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

The wording here can be a little bit confusing but there is a key point. Hamilton said that republican government had really been proven to be an impossible form of government for the real world, just a myth that could never become a reality, then those who supported liberty would have just given up the whole idea of republican government a long time ago.

“The science of politics, however, like most other sciences, has received great improvement.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #9. The Utility of the Union as a Safeguard against Domestic Faction and Insurrection. Online version, p. 38 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Hamilton here gave a name to the whole field of study concerning government: political science. This may not be the first time the phrase was used but it is important to note that politics is a field of study that can be treated like a science. Even though it is a social science that is based more on theory and is not a science like biology it involved essential elements of a scientific method of study. A science allows someone to describe, explain and predict. Hamilton claimed that the science of politics had been majorly improved over time. What Hamilton said this allowed those who formed government to do was predict how government would operate based on the study of government from the past and present.

“The efficacy of various principles is now well understood, which were either not known at all, or imperfectly known to the ancients. The regular distribution of power into distinct departments; the introduction of legislative balances and checks; the institution of courts composed of judges, holding their offices during good behaviour; the representation of the people in the legislature, by deputies of their own election; these are either wholly new discoveries, or have made their principal progress towards perfection in modern times.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #9. The Utility of the Union as a Safeguard against Domestic Faction and Insurrection. Online version, p. 38 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Hamilton went on to describe how the science of politics had been improved. The first thing that he pointed out was how certain principles worked out. There were principles that when policies were enacted that there was an effect from them and that could be traced with more accuracy than it had been in the past. Hamilton argued that there was a more clear understanding of these things than ancient peoples had had because they were not aware of them at all or had a limited understanding of them.

Some of the things Hamilton said that had been discovered as political truths were things that would become hallmarks of American government: separation of power into separate departments, checks and balances from the legislative branch, federal courts that had life-long judges to serve as long as they maintained good behavior, that the people should be represented nationally by those they elect themselves. All of those thing are what many would mention when describing American government. Hamilton asserted that these ideas and values were either new or have been accepted in modern times.

“They are means, and powerful means, by which the excellencies of republican government may be retained, and its imperfections lessened or avoided.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #9. The Utility of the Union as a Safeguard against Domestic Faction and Insurrection. Online version, p. 38 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

This is essential to understanding constitutional American government. American government is an attempt to limit republican government in certain ways in order to avoid the issues of republican government but still maintain the freedom of republican government. That is what most would argue to be the genius of American government. Hamilton claimed that the things he had listed and others that were key to the Constitution were powerful and practical ways that could hold onto the positive aspects of republican government and control the negative aspects of republican government. Notice that he did not say that every issue would totally be removed or prevented but that many could be and others could be lessened.

“To this catalogue of circumstances, that tend to the amelioration of popular systems of civil government, I shall venture, however novel it may appear to some, to add one more, on a principle which has been made the foundation of an objection to the new constitution; I mean the enlargement of the orbit within which such systems are to revolve, either in respect to the dimensions of a single state, or to the consolidation of several smaller states into one great confederacy.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #9. The Utility of the Union as a Safeguard against Domestic Faction and Insurrection. Online version, p. 38 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

The argument here was taken up in greater detail by James Madison in the famous Federalist #10. Hamilton said that there were many things could improve a republican form of government but Hamilton said that he would add one more. What Hamilton mentioned was the simple expansion of the size of the republic itself. This, as Madison would point out in the next essay, would limit the power of groups (or factions) to overpower others by majority rule. This argument will be handled in the next article.

“So far are the suggestions of Montesquieu from standing in opposition to a general union of the states, that he explicitly treats of a confederate republicas the expedient for extending the sphere of popular government, and reconciling the advantages of monarchy with those of republicanism.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #9. The Utility of the Union as a Safeguard against Domestic Faction and Insurrection. Online version, p. 39 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

One of the most influential books on those who formed the government of the United States was Spirit of the Laws by Montesquieu. In the next quote Hamilton devoted a good portion of his paper to quoting some of the principles written by Montesquieu. Many of the readers of the time would have been familiar with the writings of Montesquieu and some had claimed that he was against the form of government that was proposed under the Constitution. Hamilton said that the arguments of Montesquieu did not stand against the republican government proposed for the United States but rather affirmed it. Hamilton explained that Montesquieu expressly said that republics—when they were expanded—kept the benefits of both monarchies and free government.

“‘It is very probable, says he,* that mankind would have been obliged, at length, to live constantly under the government of a SINGLE PERSON, had they not contrived a kind of constitution, that has all the internal advantages of a republican, together with the external force of a monarchical government. I mean a CONFEDERATE REPUBLIC.

This form of government is a convention by which several smaller states agree to become members of a larger one, which they intend to form. It is a kind of assemblage of societies, that constitute a new one, capable of increasing by means of new associations, till they arrive to such a degree of power as to be able to provide for the security of the united body.

A republic of this kind, able to withstand an external force, may support itself without any internal corruption. The form of this society prevents all manner of inconveniences.

If a single member should attempt to usurp the supreme authority, he could not be supposed to have an equal authority and credit in all the confederate states. Were he to have too great influence over one, this would alarm the rest. Were he to subdue a part, that which would still remain free might oppose him with forces, independent of those which he had usurped, and overpower him before he could be settled in his usurpation.

Should a popular insurrection happen in one of the confederate states, the others are able to quell it. Should abuses creep into one part, they are reformed by those that remain sound. The state may be destroyed on one side, and not on the other; the confederacy may be dissolved, and the confederates preserve their sovereignty.

As this government is composed of small republics, it enjoys the internal happiness of each, and with respect to its external situation, it is possessed, by means of the association, of all the advantages of large monarchies.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #9. The Utility of the Union as a Safeguard against Domestic Faction and Insurrection. Online version, pp. 39-40 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

This lengthy quotation is not from Hamilton but a quote from Montesquieu. This is a long quote but it has some key aspects. Montesquieu said that if there was no type of constitution to rule by law then the people would have to be ruled by a single person in a monarchical form of government. What was needed was a constitution of some kind that provided the freedom of republican government but also had the strength of a monarchy when dealing with the outside world. This is what Montesquieu termed a confederate republic.

In that type of government, Montesquieu noted, many states agreed to become one through uniting. Individual states formed a larger whole. When these societies assembled became a new society together through uniting that they became capable of having more power, security, and safety together.

This type of republic would be able to withstand force from foreign enemies which a normal republic could not do. This meant that security was provided but otherwise security was one of the biggest weakness of republican government. Since this type of republican government could defend itself from outside forces it was less likely to being destroyed from the inside.

In this case even if one person attempted to gain power he would not have the chance of gaining equal popularity and power in every state. It would be possible in a small state for one person to become a tyrant through gaining popularity with the people and then power over them but in a large republic, with many parts, many people, many interests, it would be almost impossible for one person to gain power over the whole. Even if someone did gain great power over one state it would alert the rest of the states to it and would concern them. Even if a tyrant conquered part of a state or even a state the rest of the people in the state or the rest of the people in the confederacy or nation would probably rise up against that person and force him out of power.

An insurrection or rebellion in a small republic could potentially destroy the whole republic. In one state a rebellion could end the republican government in that state permanently. On the other hand, in a larger republic that was expanded through many states an insurrection in one state would not undo the whole nation. Keep in mind Shay’s Rebellion had happened fairly recently in the history of America. In a large republic a popular rebellion in the part of the republic would not end the whole republic but could rather be quelled. If a part is compromised then it can be corrected by the rest of the whole. Part of a nation can be destroyed without the whole thing being destroyed.

Montesquieu finally argued that the best government was a republic of republics; a large republic built out of smaller republics. This was the best form of government. While on the one hand, the large republic made up of smaller republics was can benefit from the happiness of all the parts it can, on the other hand, enjoy the advantages of a powerful monarchy in relation to external foreign governments.

“The definition of a confederate republic seems simply to be, ‘an assemblage of societies,’ or an association of two or more states into one state. The extent, modifications, and objects, of the federal authority, are mere matters of discretion. So long as the separate organization of the members be not abolished, so long as it exists by a constitutional necessity for local purposes, though it should be in perfect subordination to the general authority of the union, it would still be, in fact and in theory, an association of states, or a confederacy.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #9. The Utility of the Union as a Safeguard against Domestic Faction and Insurrection. Online version, p. 41 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

A “confederate republic” is what Hamilton referred to as “an assemblage of societies.” This meant that it was, as said before, a republic of republics. Many states become one overall nation. As far as federal power was regarded those things, according to Hamilton, the extent of the powers would be mere details. Hamilton argued that as long as there were separate members united together, as long as there was constitutional law, as long as there was a general submission of authority to the federal government of the Union, all these things would be based on states that were united.

“The proposed constitution, so far from implying an abolition of the state governments, makes them constituent parts of the national sovereignty, by allowing them a direct representation in the senate, and leaves in their possession certain exclusive, and very important, portions of the sovereign power. This fully corresponds, in every rational import of the terms, with the idea of a federal government.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #9. The Utility of the Union as a Safeguard against Domestic Faction and Insurrection. Online version, p. 41 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

The Constitution that Hamilton and others were attempting to have ratified was not attempting to end state government but rather they would become united members under one federal government. The republican states would join under the larger auspices of the national republic government. The states themselves would be represented in the Senate which meant that two senators from each state would have an essential part in dictating how the federal government would be operated. The federal government would be influenced by state governments in a very real and practical way. The federal government would not just listen to the interests of various states but would rather have terms of the national government dictated by senators from each state. This way the federal, national government of the United States would be a government built on state governments, a republic of republics.


Commentary on Federalist #8

Commentary on Federalist #8

Commentary on Federalist #8

Alexander Hamilton continued another area of the subject that he was addressing by taking up the subject of how internal war could produce standing armies within the states and other things that would be toxic to liberty. A standing army is simply an army that is not raised once for a purpose then discontinued after a war but one that is constant. As we consider this paper the fact that the United States military is constantly employed and the fact we have police forces that are almost paramilitary in some respects should be another subject to look into. Have we set aside the wisdom of the Founders in many ways or have we learned something else that they did not know?

The text of Federalist No. 8.

“Assuming it therefore as an established truth, that, in case of disunion, the several states; or such combinations of them as might happen to be formed out of the wreck of the general confederacy, would be subject to those vicissitudes of peace and war, of friendship and enmity with each other, which have fallen to the lot of all neighbouring nations not united under one government, let us enter into a concise detail of some of the consequences that would attend such a situation.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #8. The effects of Internal War in producing Standing Armies, and other institutions friendly to liberty, p. 32 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

The first assumption that has to be made to fathom Hamilton’s argument is that is the states were disunited that they would behave as separate nations with each other which means they would be subject to peace and war, friendship and conflict. This has been the case with all nations who are not united under one government. The purpose of this paper—of Hamilton’s paper—is to show what the consequences that would unfold if America continued in that situation. With the assumption that the states would behave like nations toward each other it would lead into some inevitable consequences.

“War between the states, in the first periods of their separate existence, would be accompanied with much greater distresses than it commonly is in those countries, where regular military establishments have long obtained.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #8. The effects of Internal War in producing Standing Armies, and other institutions friendly to liberty, p. 32 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

The wars between the states that might arise out of this hypothetical future for America would be—in Hamilton’s estimation—worse than the wars between nations who have already had standing armies for a long time. Why would these wars be even worse than between nations who already have well-established militaries?

“The disciplined armies always kept on foot on the continent of Europe, though they bear a malignant aspect to liberty and economy, have, notwithstanding, been productive of the signal advantage of rendering sudden conquests impracticable, and of preventing that rapid desolation, which used to mark the progress of war, prior to their introduction. The art of fortification has contributed to the same ends. The nations of Europe are encircled with chains of fortified places, which mutually obstruct invasion.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #8. The effects of Internal War in producing Standing Armies, and other institutions friendly to liberty, p. 32 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

The militaries that existed in Europe were dangerous to liberty and an expensive strain on the economy but even they were considered preferable to the type of situation Hamilton saw arising in the states. Those militaries in Europe had been productive and useful because they were a deterrent to other armies invading their state. Another state could not suddenly conquer a state that had a standing military without great cost in lives and treasure. Previously wars in Europe had operated by armies being raised to take over other nations. European nations were difficult to invade because of their militaries. This was the benefit of standing militaries, however, the difference between Europe and America is that the states of America would have to raise armies and the armies in Europe had already been in existence for a long time.

“The history of war, in that quarter of the globe, is no longer a history of nations subdued, and empires overturned; but of towns taken and retaken, of battles that decide nothing, of retreats more beneficial than victories, of much effort and little acquisition.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #8. The effects of Internal War in producing Standing Armies, and other institutions friendly to liberty, pp. 32-33 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Whereas Europe used to be a cauldron of conquerors and overturned empires some order had been established and a balance of power was established. Lines were drawn more clearly between the nations and they each had their own armies to repel other invaders. After that time the wars in Europe consisted of battles on a smaller scale, for smaller prizes, battles that ended with no clear conclusion, with no clear winner, with battles won but with no benefit from victory, and little territory taken even though much effort was invested. In short, wars to conquer became more expensive with less of a payout; war cost more and paid less.

“In this country, the scene would be altogether reversed. The jealousy of military establishments, would postpone them as long as possible. The want of fortifications, leaving the frontiers of one state open to another, would facilitate inroads. The populous states would, with little difficulty, overrun their less populous neighbours. Conquests would be as easy to be made, as difficult to be retained. War, therefore, would be desultory and predatory. Plunder and devastation ever march in the train of irregulars. The calamities of individuals would make the principal figure in the events, which would characterize our military exploits.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #8. The effects of Internal War in producing Standing Armies, and other institutions friendly to liberty, p. 33 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Remember the situation that Hamilton described in Europe. Hamilton asserted that the situation would be the opposite in America. This is what Hamilton imagined was on the horizon for America: militaries unsuccessful in pushing out the militaries of other states, open frontiers instead of strong borders would be easy for armies to cross, larger states with more people in them would overtake smaller states with less people in them, conquest would be easier, war would be the result, state armies would plunder other states. Basically Hamilton saw this situation ending in disaster. Europe had been established so long with regular militaries and standing armies that they prevented other nations from wanting to invade them but in America the states would be left wide open and those who could become stronger would have the natural advantage.

“Safety from external danger, is the most powerful director of national conduct.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #8. The effects of Internal War in producing Standing Armies, and other institutions friendly to liberty, p. 33 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Hamilton observed that one of the driving forces of any people or nation that led them to action was the threat of external force. This is what Jay had dealt with in his papers before Hamilton. Hamilton, while he readily acknowledged this, believed that an internal conflict could be just as deadly. The problem with the fear of external danger is that it will drive people to accept certain things and give up others.

“Even the ardent love of liberty will, after a time, give way to its dictates. The violent destruction of life and property incident to war; the continual effort and alarm attendant on a state of continual danger, will compel nations the most attached to liberty, to resort for repose and security to institutions which have a tendency to destroy their civil and political rights. To be more safe, they, at length, become willing to run the risk of being less free.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #8. The effects of Internal War in producing Standing Armies, and other institutions friendly to liberty, p. 33 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Even those who passionately love and are committed to the principles of liberty are still subject to this fear. All people naturally have a tendency to prioritize safety to the point that they will accept things that promise protection—even though nothing can promise complete protection—but they drain liberty out of the system. No one escapes this tendency so it is better to be aware of it.

The fact that life and property are destroyed during war, the investment that of blood and treasure that go into war, the fear that comes with war, the sense of being in constant danger, the uncertainty about the present and future; all these things are factors in every war that cause people and governments to resort to measures that choke liberty. For the sake of security people will even exchange their civil and political rights. In a cost benefit analysis that most people make they are willing to be less free in order to feel safer.

Hamilton saw the introduction of certain institutions as the beginning of people being less interested in liberty and more interested in safety.

“The institutions chiefly alluded to, are STANDING ARMIES, and the correspondent appendages of military establishment.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #8. The effects of Internal War in producing Standing Armies, and other institutions friendly to liberty, p. 33 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

What Hamilton feared between the states were standing armies, that is, that the states would continually have standing military establishments in perpetuity. Unless we know history then we may not be familiar with this concept. We are used to having a national military that is always in operation and always available even if we are not involved in a war. Before the time of World War II when America chose to go to war it had to raise an army, go to war, then the army would atrophy or shrink into almost nothing after the close of the war. Hamilton feared that the states would develop militaries that would exist all the time and never end and that would allow states to go to war more easily and quickly. Standing armies, and everything that came with them, were what Hamilton feared in the states.

“Standing armies, it is said, are not provided against in the new constitution; and it is thence inferred that they would exist under it.*”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #8. The effects of Internal War in producing Standing Armies, and other institutions friendly to liberty, p. 33 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

The Constitution did not expressly prevent standing armies from existing and some pointed to this as a weakness of the Constitution. Hamilton pointed out that even though this was true that it was more likely that standing armies would exist without the Constitution than with it. Even though the Constitution did not prevent standing armies it did not accommodate them. Hamilton made a not that that objection would be handled eventually at another time and that precautions had been taken in the Constitution that would be a better guard than all previous methods.[1]

“This inference, from the very form of the proposition, is, at best, problematical and uncertain. But standing armies, it may be replied, must inevitably result from a dissolution of the confederacy.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #8. The effects of Internal War in producing Standing Armies, and other institutions friendly to liberty, p. 33 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Hamilton noted that the accusation that the Constitution did not stop standing armies had many problems with it. In fact, he said that if that argument was granted to its fullest extent that it was still uncertain. These arguments could not be proven against the Constitution. What could be proven, Hamilton argued, was that if the states were not united that standing armies would result. For Hamilton standing armies would have been inevitable if the Constitution and an unlikely, uncertain risk if the Constitution was accepted. What did Hamilton see as the factors that would contribute to standing armies?

“Frequent war, and constant apprehension, which require a state of as constant preparation, will infallibly produce them.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #8. The effects of Internal War in producing Standing Armies, and other institutions friendly to liberty, p. 33 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

War and even the threat of war would cause states to constantly prepare themselves for fighting in the present or future would definitely cause states to create standing armies. Notice, again, the influence of Thomas Hobbes who said that war does not consist just in actual fighting but in the known tendency of others to fight so that people and states not only fight but have to worry about the fact that others might fight with them.

“The weaker states, or confederacies, would first have recourse to them, to put themselves upon an equality with their more potent neighbours. They would endeavour to supply the inferiority of population and resources, by a more regular and effective system of defence, by disciplined troops, and by fortifications. They would, at the same time, be obliged to strengthen the executive arm of government; in doing which, their constitutions would acquire a progressive direction towards monarchy.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #8. The effects of Internal War in producing Standing Armies, and other institutions friendly to liberty, pp. 33-34 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

The weaker states would be likely to be the first to create standing armies in order to put themselves on a level footing with strong or larger states. What they lacked in population and resources they would try to make up for in the area of defense. All this would strengthen the executive branch of government within the states and would move in the direction of a monarchy rather than a republic.

“It is of the nature of war to increase the executive, at the expense of the legislative authority.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #8. The effects of Internal War in producing Standing Armies, and other institutions friendly to liberty, p. 34 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

This is one of the simplest and truest statements about political science. When the executive branch of any government becomes more powerful the legislative branch is weakened. It is possible to have a strong executive and a strong legislative branch in their own spheres but when the executive starts to take over other responsibilities it means the legislative branch suffers as a result.

“The expedients which have been mentioned would soon give the states, or confederacies, that made use of them, a superiority over their neighbours.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #8. The effects of Internal War in producing Standing Armies, and other institutions friendly to liberty, p. 34 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

The states who developed their militaries would have become greater than other states. This would have caused several other problems within the nation and would have meant that states or certain groups of states could overpower others. This would do a lot of things but it would certainly not lead to union.

“Small states, or states of less natural strength, under vigorous governments, and with the assistance of disciplined armies, have often triumphed over large states, or states of greater natural strength, which have been destitute of these advantages.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #8. The effects of Internal War in producing Standing Armies, and other institutions friendly to liberty, p. 34 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

If small states could develop effective militaries then they might even subject larger states to them. Hamilton feared that small states would be a risk in raising standing armies. Large states would have this risk also but they would be more unlikely to feel the pressure to develop longstanding militaries immediately because of their size. States with standing armies could become a huge risk to other states and to the nation as a whole.

“Neither the pride, nor the safety, of the more important states, or confederacies, would permit them long to submit to this mortifying and adventitious superiority.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #8. The effects of Internal War in producing Standing Armies, and other institutions friendly to liberty, p. 34 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

States would not be able to avoid this issue for long if Hamilton was correct as to what the future would be. If states entered into this abnormal attitude of superiority then it would mean the death of a system based on unity between the states.

“Thus we should in a little time see established in every part of this country, the same engines of despotism which have been the scourge of the old world.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #8. The effects of Internal War in producing Standing Armies, and other institutions friendly to liberty, p. 34 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

In descriptive language, Hamilton predicted that all over the country before long there would be standing armies and that they would be “…engines of despotism…” These armies would have been the driving forces toward a tyrannical and despotic government. The system of standing armies that had plagued the Europe for centuries would again be present in America.

“These are not vague inferences deduced from speculative defects in a constitution, the whole power of which is lodged in the hands of the people, or their representatives and delegates; they are solid conclusions, drawn from the natural and necessary progress of human affairs.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #8. The effects of Internal War in producing Standing Armies, and other institutions friendly to liberty, p. 34 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Hamilton claimed that these fears were very much based in reality and that he had evidence from history that suggested his concerns were valid. He argued that he did not have a vague, undefined fear of the future like the opponents of the Constitution had. Instead Hamilton asserted that his legitimate concern had the solid backing of history. While opponents of the Constitution might have had some ambiguous fears as to what the results of the Constitution would be, Hamilton had fears based on what he saw from history repeating itself in America.

“It may perhaps be asked, by way of objection, why did not standing armies spring up out of the contentions which so often distracted the ancient republics of Greece?”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #8. The effects of Internal War in producing Standing Armies, and other institutions friendly to liberty, p. 34 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Hamilton took up a question and objection that probably had been raised or would have been raised against his argument. The question—based on the historical record—is about why the republics in Greece never created standing armies. Greece faced conflicts but the republics did not raise standing armies. Why was this the case? If Hamilton believed that the American states would create standing armies the people could argue that maybe they were like the republics of Greece which avoided standing armies. Hamilton was already prepared to answer this objection which is why he asked it.

“Different answers equally satisfactory, may be given to this question. The industrious habits of the people of the present day, absorbed in the pursuits of gain, and devoted to the improvements of agriculture and commerce, are incompatible with the condition of a nation of soldiers, which was the true condition of the people of those republics. The means of revenue, which have been so greatly multiplied by the increase of gold and silver, and of the arts of industry, and the science of finance, which is the offspring of modern times, concurring with the habits of nations, have produced an entire revolution in the system of war, and have rendered disciplined armies, distinct from the body of the citizens, the inseparable companion of frequent hostility.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #8. The effects of Internal War in producing Standing Armies, and other institutions friendly to liberty, p. 34 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Hamilton claimed that there were several answers for why the republics of Greece never established standing armies. He said, however, that the people of his time who pursued industry, gain, who were improving agriculture and commerce, and all the other things that were true about Americans made it impossible for them to dwell in a country where the whole nation was basically made up of soldiers. That was the difference between the Americans and the people in the republics of Greece and elsewhere.

America had developed and modernized through increased revenue, new sources of revenue, improvement of industry, development in the science of economics and finance, and all these things had come from modern times and produced what Hamilton called a “revolution” in the system of war. In other words, the nature of war had been changed by the modernizing of the world. We have seen this play out in history in many different ways and technological developments do bring shifts in how war is conducted.

The then-current context wherein disciplined armies were distinct from the regular citizens tied standing armies and frequent conflict together. To say it another way, wherever standing armies existed, frequent conflict existed. All those conditions with standing armies added to them would inevitably bring conflict.

“But in a country, where the perpetual menacings of danger oblige the government to be always prepared to repel it, her armies must be numerous enough for instant defence.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #8. The effects of Internal War in producing Standing Armies, and other institutions friendly to liberty, p. 35 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

When a country is surrounded by enemies and in danger consistently from attack the government has to be constantly ready to fight at all times. This prioritizes the military to the point where war becomes the center around which everything else is based. What Hamilton feared most followed from this situation. He stated, “The military state becomes elevated above the civil.”[2]

In this state the priority is no longer freedom but security. Total security is promised in place of liberty. Total safety is impossible and can never be the result but the fears of the people lead them to accept a standing military that never ceases. The priority really becomes the military itself and the military could even become superior to the people themselves.

“The inhabitants of territories often the theatre of war, are unavoidably subjected to frequent infringements on their rights, which serve to weaken their sense of those rights; and by degrees, the people are brought to consider the soldiery not only as their protectors, but as their superiors.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #8. The effects of Internal War in producing Standing Armies, and other institutions friendly to liberty, p. 35 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Those who would be part of the war zone would have their rights violated. These people might not even be involved directly in the war themselves but that would not exempt them from suffering from it. The more rights are violated the less people are aware of those rights. At first when rights are infringed upon the people are likely to be outraged but after a while they might get used to the system. Rights are often not taken away all at once but by gradual degrees and, therefore, the people eventually would see the standing armies and the soldiers in it not just as their servants to protect them but as their betters. The standing armies would likely come to think of themselves as superior and the people might think of them as superior as well.

“The transition from this disposition to that of considering them as masters, is neither remote nor difficult: but it is very difficult to prevail upon a people under such impressions, to make a bold, or effectual resistance, to usurpations supported by the military power.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #8. The effects of Internal War in producing Standing Armies, and other institutions friendly to liberty, p. 35 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

If the people came to the point where they viewed the standing armies as their superiors then only one short step would remain until the soldiers of the standing armies were viewed as their masters. In short, the militaries would have gone from forces to protect and serve, to superiors, to masters who could withhold and dispense rights according to their will. This would not be difficult to imagine and it would not be very far away.

Once the situation had been taken to that point it would be extremely difficult to convince the people of their rights. It is almost impossible to embolden the people again to insist on their rights and their liberty. It would become much simpler to remain submit to the system. At that point it would be almost impossible to get the people to resist any type of military activity.

“The kingdom of Great Britain falls within the first description.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #8. The effects of Internal War in producing Standing Armies, and other institutions friendly to liberty, p. 35 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

The quotation before this one is what Hamilton was referring to. Britain was the type of kingdom with a standing army where it was almost impossible to convince the people to resist any usurpation by military powers. Rights were sacrificed for the sake of this type of security.

“If we are wise enough to preserve the union, we may for ages enjoy an advantage similar to that of an insulated situation.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #8. The effects of Internal War in producing Standing Armies, and other institutions friendly to liberty, p. 36 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

After describing Britain, Hamilton hoped that the Americans would be wise enough to continually enjoy the benefits of an insulated. What that means is he hoped America would isolate itself from other nations and avoid a large standing army.

“Europe is at a great distance from us. Her colonies in our vicinity will be likely to continue too much disproportioned in strength, to be able to give us any dangerous annoyance. Extensive military establishments cannot, in this position, be necessary to our security.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #8. The effects of Internal War in producing Standing Armies, and other institutions friendly to liberty, p. 36 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

One of the reasons that America could avoid standing armies was because of the distance and weakness of possible threats. Europe had to cross the Atlantic which meant that they were limited in their options for military campaigns against the United States. Of course they happened but they would have been worse if they had been much closer.

Those possible threats who were close to American land were too weak to pose a major threat to the whole nation. The Indians and the colonies of European nations would not have a strong enough foothold in the bordering territories to greatly threaten America.

For those reasons standing armies were not necessary for the safety and security of America. There was no need for them, therefore, the Americans should not risk holding onto standing armies.

“But if we should be disunited, and the integral parts should either remain separated, or, which is most probable, should be thrown together into two or three confederacies, we should be, in a short course of time, in the predicament of the continental powers of Europe. Our liberties would be a prey to the means of defending ourselves against the ambition and jealousy of each other.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #8. The effects of Internal War in producing Standing Armies, and other institutions friendly to liberty, p. 36 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Hamilton predicted that if the states were disunited either by states or into separate confederacies that they would fall into the same fate that had befallen the nations of Europe, that is, standing armies and development of long-term military establishments. This would be expensive, infringe on rights, give states more opportunity to go to war with each other, and weaken or destroy the nation as a whole. Liberty would be dependent on how well states could defend themselves from each other. The greatest threat might not have been an external one but an internal one.

“This is an idea not superficial nor futile, but solid and weighty.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #8. The effects of Internal War in producing Standing Armies, and other institutions friendly to liberty, p. 36 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Hamilton just made the point that all this was not an idea that was just based on the surface or one that was pointless but, he argued, that it was a serious matter for the people of America to consider. Hamilton hoped that once the people considered the risks from these things that “…they will not hesitate to part with trivial objections to a constitution, the rejection of which would in all probability put a final period to the Union.”[3] Basically he hoped that the people would stop rejecting the Constitution for superficial reasons because he believed it was much more dangerous to reject the Constitution than to accept it. If this was the case than what Hamilton termed the “airy phantoms” of the imaginary arguments of opponents of the Constitution would disappear and a discussion of the true issues could take place.[4]

[1] Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #8. The effects of Internal War in producing Standing Armies, and other institutions friendly to liberty, p. 33, footnote [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

[2] Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #8. The effects of Internal War in producing Standing Armies, and other institutions friendly to liberty, p. 35 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

[3] Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #8. The effects of Internal War in producing Standing Armies, and other institutions friendly to liberty, p. 36 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

[4] Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #8. The effects of Internal War in producing Standing Armies, and other institutions friendly to liberty, p. 36 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]


Commentary on Federalist #7

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Commentary on Federalist #7

The seventh paper in The Federalist continues the same subject as the sixth but pulls more specific examples and causes. The last paper dealt with the issue of disputes and conflicts between states. Hamilton continued that theme in the next paper where he elaborated on his position that local, disunited states would possibly be even more dangerous to each other than unfriendly foreign nations.

The text of Federalist No. 7.

“It is sometimes asked, with an air of seeming triumph, what inducements the states could have, if disunited, to make war upon each other?”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #7. The same subject continued, and Particular Causes Enumerated. Online version, p. 26 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

The opponents of what Hamilton was making a case for proudly asked the question, “What would be the reasons disunited states could possibly have to make war on each other?” Some form of this question was evidently asked by those who did not believe a Union and the Constitution were necessary to prevent war between states. Hamilton, however, did not take the question as a rhetorical question and was prepared to answer with numerous examples to show that there were many reasons disunited states would war with each other.

“It would be a full answer to this question to say,… precisely the same inducements which have, at different times, deluged in blood all the nations in the world.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #7. The same subject continued, and Particular Causes Enumerated. Online version, p. 26 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Before getting specific Hamilton gave a general answer to this question. In short, he asserted that the causes of war between the states would be the same causes that have always caused nations to go to war with each other.

“There are causes of difference within our immediate contemplation, of the tendency of which, even under the restraints of a federal constitution, we have had sufficient experience to enable us to form a judgment of what might be expected, if those restraints were removed.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #7. The same subject continued, and Particular Causes Enumerated. Online version, p. 26 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Hamilton said that there were multiple reasons that people could think of which would still exist even under a federal constitution. In other words, these threats and issues did not simply disappear because of the Union and the Constitution but rather that they would be held in check by them in order to keep the states from destroying each other and the nation. If restraint was removed—even the limited and failing restraint of the Articles of Confederation—then the states would be even more likely to fall into wars with each other.

Territory

“Territorial disputes have at all times been found one of the most fertile sources of hostility among nations.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #7. The same subject continued, and Particular Causes Enumerated. Online version, p. 26 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

The first thing mentioned by Hamilton seems to be one of the most obvious causes for wars between states. The issue over deciding who owns what territory in a region is a common cause for wars all over the world and all throughout history.

“Perhaps the greatest proportion of the wars that have desolated the earth have sprung from this origin. This cause would exist, among us, in full force. We have a vast tract of unsettled territory within the boundaries of the United States. There still are discordant and undecided claims between several of them; and the dissolution of the union would lay a foundation for similar claims between them all.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #7. The same subject continued, and Particular Causes Enumerated. Online version, pp. 26-27 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Hamilton believed that it was possible that most wars came from disputes over territory. America would be no different in this respect. States would have issues with each other over the ownership of land and boundaries. Not to mention the fact that America possessed and would possess more unsettled territory, therefore, the likelihood that this would cause tension between the states increased. If the union was brought to an end then states would have had the opportunity to claim the unclaimed territory for themselves and this would not just have led to friendly disagreements.

“It has been the prudent policy of Congress to appease this controversy, by prevailing upon the states to make cessions to the United States for the benefit of the whole.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #7. The same subject continued, and Particular Causes Enumerated. Online version, p. 27 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

The way this had been resolved and why it had not bred conflict already was because Congress had convinced the states that—for the good of America—that all the land should be handed over to the national government of the time. If this had not been done it almost certainly would have introduced difficulties into the situation. For the time being, peace had been preserved in this area.

“A dismemberment of the confederacy however would revive this dispute, and would create others on the same subject.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #7. The same subject continued, and Particular Causes Enumerated. Online version, p. 27 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Even though the war had been prevented through a solution at the time, if the states were disunited and split up instead of being one nation, the issue would have come back. Not only would the old issue arise again but new ones of a similar kind would be created as well.

“In the wide field of Western territory, therefore, we perceive an ample theatre for hostile pretensions, without any umpire or common judge to interpose between the contending parties.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #7. The same subject continued, and Particular Causes Enumerated. Online version, p. 27 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

America was also gaining territory in the west and would continue to expand. The introduction of new territory would be a prime opportunity for conflict to arise between the states. If there was no “umpire” or someone to execute agreed-upon rules between the states then states would be able to do whatever was in their power to do. The benefit of a legitimate authority is that both sides can appeal to it, follow the rules it sets out, and submit to its decision as final. This, according to Hamilton, was necessary to prevent war between the states in regards to territory. Who would be the arbiter if not the federal government?

“To reason from the past to the future, we shall have good ground to apprehend, that the sword would sometimes be appealed to as the arbiter of their differences.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #7. The same subject continued, and Particular Causes Enumerated. Online version, pp. 27-28 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Judging from experience and from history Hamilton said that evidence clearly showed that in cases of land disputes between states where there was no neutral, disinterested arbiter between them that the disputes would be settled by the sword, that is, by war and violence.

“The circumstances of the dispute between Connecticut and Pennsylvania, respecting the lands at Wyoming, admonish us not to be sanguine in expecting an easy accommodation of such differences.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #7. The same subject continued, and Particular Causes Enumerated. Online version, p. 28 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

One example that Hamilton presented for the consideration of his readers was the land dispute between Connecticut and Pennsylvania that had to do with the land in Wyoming. Hamilton did not write about territorial disputes in a vague, theoretical way but pointed to examples that had already happened. The fact that these things were already occurring when Hamilton wrote were meant to demonstrate that the people should not be so naïve and hopeful in expecting an easy solution.

“…and can attest the danger to which the peace of the confederacy might have been exposed, had this state attempted to assert its rights by force.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #7. The same subject continued, and Particular Causes Enumerated. Online version, p. 28 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

These things could show the danger that could disrupt the peace between the states of America. If a state had decided to assert its rights by force then peace would have been at stake. Just because some disputes had not yet erupted into war did not mean that the situation could remain stable.

“Two motives preponderated in that opposition; one, a jealousy entertained of our future power; another, the interest of certain individuals of influence in the neighbouring states, who had obtained grants of lands under the actual government of that district.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #7. The same subject continued, and Particular Causes Enumerated. Online version, p. 28 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

The motives that would encourage the states to assert their rights by force that Hamilton could see arising would be jealousy because of future power that America would amass or how states would want to influence other states next to them who received new land. Just those two interests alone would be even to cause trouble between the states when it came to land.

“In a review of these transactions, we may trace some of the causes which would be likely to embroil the states with each other, if it should be their unpropitious destiny to become disunited.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #7. The same subject continued, and Particular Causes Enumerated. Online version, p. 28 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

More cases in which there might have been potential conflict could have been provided by Hamilton but he said that he had given enough to prove his point. If the states became disunited and remained in their separated state under the Articles of Confederation then Hamilton believed there would be a myriad of causes for states to fight each other.

Commerce

“The competitions of commerce would be another fruitful source of contention.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #7. The same subject continued, and Particular Causes Enumerated. Online version, p. 28 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

The second thing that Hamilton showed to be a source of conflict between the states was in the area of commerce. Hamilton did not envision just a healthy competition between states but rather competition that would lead states into further issues with each other. If their union was more solidified then competition could be a good thing in commerce between the states but individual, independent states that were all equally sovereign within the scheme of the Articles was a recipe for disaster.

“The states less favourably circumstanced, would be desirous of escaping from the disadvantages of local situation, and of sharing in the advantages of their more fortunate neighbours.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #7. The same subject continued, and Particular Causes Enumerated. Online version, pp. 28-29 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

States that were at a disadvantage because of where they were located, what their resources were, the skills that the people of that state had, would be tempted to move up the ladder by sharing the advantages of other, more successful states. This could lead to dissension between the states because of the measures the less-advantaged states might take to gain an advantage from the other states.

“Each state, or separate confederacy, would pursue a system of commercial polity peculiar to itself. This would occasion distinctions, preferences, and exclusions, which would beget discontent.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #7. The same subject continued, and Particular Causes Enumerated. Online version, p. 29 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

The fact that the states were separated and had the ability to form confederacies with each other by grouping together was dangerous especially for the area of commercial policy. If separate groups of states or even all thirteen states or more added over time pursued their own goals in commerce, yet still wanted to be one nation, it would put pressure on the states and strain their relationships. States would make their own policies distinct, they would pursue their own preferences, they would exclude trade and commerce from other states, and all these things would cause states to be discontent. If the states were united under the federal government with the Constitution then commerce would be regulated even if states became differentiated in a limited way from each other.

We should be ready to denominate injuries, those things which were in reality the justifiable acts of independent sovereignties consulting a distinct interest. The spirit of enterprise, which characterizes the commercial part of America, has left no occasion of displaying itself unimproved. It is not at all probable, that this unbridled spirit would pay much respect to those regulations of trade…”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #7. The same subject continued, and Particular Causes Enumerated. Online version, p. 29 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Hamilton claimed that to punish those type of commercial actions would be impossible if the states were to continue to be allowed to act as independent nations. Hamilton said that these actions should be addressed by the national, federal government but that it had no power to do so in this context. Even though the spirit of enterprise had its distinct benefits would not naturally improve the relations between the states unless institutions were set in place that could facilitate them in an orderly way. States would not allow their trade to be regulated by other states.

“The infractions of these regulations on one side, the efforts to prevent and repel them on the other, would naturally lead to outrages, and these to reprisals and wars.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #7. The same subject continued, and Particular Causes Enumerated. Online version, p. 29 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Some states or groups within the state would break the rules and regulations of commercial enterprise and others would react through trying to prevent them breaking the rules and these two things would mix together to create the ideal situation for war.

“The opportunities which some states would have of rendering others tributary to them, by commercial regulations, would be impatiently submitted to by the tributary states.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #7. The same subject continued, and Particular Causes Enumerated. Online version, p. 29 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

A tributary state is a state which pays tribute of some sort to another state for some benefit. The benefit usually comes in the form of protection but it can take other forms. What it means when a tributary state exists is that it is subservient to another state and usually has been overcome by them in some way in order to establish the tribute system.

Hamilton believed that some states would have the chance to bring other states—probably smaller and weaker ones—under their control through economic means. The only regulations on commerce, Hamilton argued, could come from states pulling other states into their control and forcing regulations on them.

Debt

“The public debt of the union would be a further cause of collision between the separate states or confederacies.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #7. The same subject continued, and Particular Causes Enumerated. Online version, pp. 29-30 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

After the Revolutionary War and from other causes America was under a lot of debt. The debt hurt the credit of America and lessened their reputation in the eyes of foreign nations. The issue was that, under the Articles, it was not totally clear who was responsible for the debt. Each state had to pay back debt on its own and the whole nation could not own responsibility for the whole thing. The people who were united could not be guaranteed to pay back the debt because of the individual states. Even though the debt was owned by all—the whole nation, all the states collectively—there was no guarantee that all would pay back the debt or own responsibility for their share in it. States could be drawn into conflict by disagreeing on how to pay back the debt.

“How would it be possible to agree upon a rule of apportionment, satisfactory to all?”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #7. The same subject continued, and Particular Causes Enumerated. Online version, p. 30 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

The question that Hamilton posed considered whether it would be likely or even possible for separate states to come to an agreement on how they should pay back the debt. There would definitely have been disagreements here that could have potentially escalated into major dissension between the states. If there was a strong central government, however, it could assume responsibility for the debt and decide how it would be paid back in a way that would be legitimate, fair and equal. In that case, even if people did not like or even agree with the system decided on for repayment, it would be unlikely that they would refuse to pay it back.

“There is, perhaps, nothing more likely to disturb the tranquillity of nations, than their being bound to mutual contributions for any common object, which does not yield an equal and coincident benefit. For it is an observation as true, as it is trite, that there is nothing men differ so readily about, as the payment of money.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #7. The same subject continued, and Particular Causes Enumerated. Online version, p. 31 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Hamilton noted that this would possibly be the most likely cause for conflict between the states than the responsibility of the states to come together to pay for something. No one should truly expect separate nations to pay for something together, therefore, they should not expect states to follow that method. The situation could have become potentially heated especially if each state did not benefit equally from the payment.

Hamilton made a very true and pithy observation that there is nothing about which men so often disagree about as much as how money should be paid. Think of how a check is split at a restaurant.

Laws Violating Rights

“Laws in violation of private contracts, as they amount to aggressions on the rights of those states, whose citizens are injured by them, may be considered as another probable source of hostility.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #7. The same subject continued, and Particular Causes Enumerated. Online version, p. 31 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

There were laws that prevented the breaking of private contracts and had consequences for violating them but there were also laws created by the states which required private contracts to be broken. This was an infringement of the states on the rights of people and this would be another source of fuel for the fire of conflict between the states. Differing states had differing laws that forced or would force the breaking of private contracts.

Incompatible Alliances

“The probability of incompatible alliances between the different states, or confederacies, and different foreign nations, and the effects of this situation upon the peace of the whole, have been sufficiently unfolded in some preceding papers.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #7. The same subject continued, and Particular Causes Enumerated. Online version, p. 31 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

States had the opportunities to form alliances with each other or with foreign nations that could be incompatible to the interests of some states or the nation as a whole. For example, several states could join in an alliance against another state or states, one or a few states could join an alliance with a foreign nation that would be incompatible to the interest of America as a whole, and so on. This would put strain on the peace of the whole nation. Hamilton said that this subject had been handled by Jay in previous papers.

Conclusion

“From the view they have exhibited of this part of the subject, this conclusion is to be drawn, that America, if not connected at all, or only by the feeble tie of a simple league, offensive and defensive, would by the operation of such opposite and jarring alliances be gradually entangled in all the pernicious labyrinths of European politics and wars;…”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #7. The same subject continued, and Particular Causes Enumerated. Online version, p. 31 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

The conclusion that Hamilton came to and hoped his readers would come to was that if America was disconnected or only connected by weak ties that they would almost certainly be pulled into a maze of foreign (European) politics and wars. This was unavoidable for Hamilton. America would suffer the same fate as Europe had historically. The alliances that the states would enter into would often be opposed to each other and force them to be enemies.

Divide et impera must be the motto of every nation, that either hates or fears us.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #7. The same subject continued, and Particular Causes Enumerated. Online version, p. 31 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Other nations would have the opportunity to take advantage of America if they remained divided. Hamilton finished with a quote that he said should be the statement every nation who wanted to defeat and conquer them: Divide et impera. One can probably get the gist of this quote without knowing Latin; it is a common one. This means “Divide and conquer” or “Divide and rule.” If the nation of America could be divided against itself it could be conquered from the outside. America would not be brought down by the outside primarily but rather it would have to be brought down from within by division.


Commentary on Federalist #6

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Commentary on Federalist #6

This is the second paper composed by Alexander Hamilton. Eventually I hope to provide some pieces on the background and history of these authors so that their writings are more meaningful. Today, however, we will just look at Hamilton’s writing in this paper. Anecdotally, a lot of people seem to regard Hamilton as the easiest to read and the least dense of all three authors.

This paper is a hinge on which that turns The Federalist in a slightly different direction. While Jay mentioned, in passing, some of the things that Hamilton now addresses, Hamilton takes on the subject directly. While Jay dealt with the danger of foreign force and influence Hamilton followed him and dealt with the dangers of wars between states. War between states was one of the greatest risks and threats to union for America. Not to mention the fact that there was really not arbitrator between two states. Hamilton dealt with this subject in this paper and in Federalist #7.

The text of Federalist No. 6.

“I shall now proceed to delineate dangers of a different, and, perhaps, still more alarming kind, those which will in all probability flow from dissentions between the states themselves, and from domestic factions and convulsions.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #6. Concerning Dangers from War between the States. Online version, p. 20-21 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Hamilton first distinguished his subject from that of Jay in the previous papers (2 through 5) instead of separating them. Hamilton believed that the dangers about which he and Jay were writing could not be separated but that readers should be informed about the different aspects of them. Hamilton said that his paper would be similar to Jay’s papers because it addressed a related danger but if was a bit different from Jay’s papers because he believed the threat to be addressed in his paper was greater. That threat, which he described as “more alarming,” was that of dissensions and conflicts between states in America.

Hamilton and many others saw a very real threat that was closer than that of foreign nations. They believed that the destruction of America—remaining as it was—would probably come, not from foreign nations, but from within. America was in danger of destroying itself.

A foreign enemy would have to come from the outside and foreign nations would usually have to cross the Atlantic Ocean unless they decided to attack through colonies in the region, but both of those would come from outside. Those were real dangers addressed by Jay in the previous papers but now Hamilton shows that what might be worse is that states could attack each other.

“These have been already in some instances slightly anticipated; but they deserve a more particular and more full investigation.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #6. Concerning Dangers from War between the States. Online version, p. 21 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Jay had already made mention of some of these things which have been discussed but Hamilton believed that they needed to be focused on more directly. He believed that the importance of this issue should not be missed and that the subject deserved a whole paper or more devoted to it rather than just a part of a paper primarily dealing with something else.

Also keep in mind that America during this time period had had dealings with foreign nations and wars but those were not the norm and they could not point to as many examples of those type of things just because of simply lack of experience. On the other hand, they had much more experience with the difficulties caused by states in dispute with one another.

“If these states should either be wholly disunited, or only united in partial confederacies, a man must be far gone in Utopian speculations, who can seriously doubt that the subdivisions into which they might be thrown, would have frequent and violent contests with each other.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #6. Concerning Dangers from War between the States. Online version, p. 21 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

If America remained under the same conditions and type of government that it currently had—whether totally disunited into separate states that behave like nations or into confederacies that would be groups of states—then Hamilton said it would be some type of fairy tale to believe that there would not be war between them. Not only conflicts by themselves but frequent and violent ones. Frequency speaks to how often the wars and conflicts would happen and Hamilton believed that they would continue to happen. Violence speaks to the nature of the conflicts or contests; they would not just be healthy competition between states but would instead be unfriendly campaigns aimed to undermine other states. Obviously this would be a toxic environment for union between the states.

“To presume a want of motives for such contests, as an argument against their existence, would be to forget that men are ambitions, vindictive, and rapacious. To look for a continuation of harmony between a number of independent unconnected sovereignties, situated in the same neighbourhood, would be to disregard the uniform course of human events, and to set at defiance the accumulated experience of ages.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #6. Concerning Dangers from War between the States. Online version, p. 21 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

In Hamilton’s estimation it would be extremely naïve to believe that there would not be several motives for conflicts between states. His point was that someone could not argue, “But why would states fight each other? What reason would they have to have conflict between them?” Hamilton argued that there were plenty of motives and to ignore them would be irresponsible.

This idea would be based on an unrealistic expectation of human nature. For Hamilton there was no question that humans possessed the potential to be naturally ambitious, vindictive and rapacious. Ambition has a positive side as well but Hamilton focuses on the negative aspect that implies that humans pursue their own agendas and put serious effort into bringing them about and they are opposed to anything or anyone getting in the way of their goals. Vindictive can be similar to cruel but it can also mean someone who is willing to punish others unfairly or beyond what they deserve. Rapacious can simply mean greedy but it also extends to mean an attitude that leads to seizing or plundering because of greed. Since states are made up of and run by humans, Hamilton saw this as a very probable threat.

It would also be unfair to expect states that behaved like disconnected nations, with no powerful federal government, to live in harmony as if they were actually one nation. A nation might be expected to live in peace and harmony with itself but several nations or confederacies, all pursuing different interests, could not be expected to live in peace and harmony at all times. To look for and expect that would be the case, Hamilton argues, would be to ignore history and experience. History had taught that this was not to be the case and experience had shown others in their own time and country that they should not believe that their situation would be different. The Americans were not the exception and they were not exempt to principles of how states operate.

“The causes of hostility among nations are innumerable.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #6. Concerning Dangers from War between the States. Online version, p. 21 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

In plain language, Hamilton made his point. If the individual states in America were going to continue to operate as nations then they were subject to all the issues that went into be separate nations. One of the main difficulties is that nations can always find reasons to fight. Hamilton even believed that these causes that had the potential to drive nations into disputes were “innumerable.” There were an infinite number of directions from which war could come between two nations, but then imagine the amount of causes between four nations, or even thirteen. The case would be exponentially higher and the risk exponentially greater. From there, Hamilton mentions several historical examples.

“The celebrated Pericles, in compliance with the resentments of a prostitute,* at the expense of much of the blood and treasure of his countrymen, attacked, vanquished, and destroyed the city of the Samnians. The same man, stimulated by private pique against the Magarensians, another nation of Greece, or to avoid a prosecution with which he was threatened as an accomplice in a supposed theft of the statuary Phidias, or to get rid of the accusations prepared to be brought against him for dissipating the funds of the state in the purchase of popularity, or from a combination of all these causes, was the primitive author of that famous and fatal war, distinguished in the Grecian annals by the name of the Peloponnesian war; which, after various vicissitudes, intermissions, and renewals, terminated in the ruin of the Athenian commonwealth.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #6. Concerning Dangers from War between the States. Online version, pp. 21-22 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

This is a hefty paragraph just to read but instead of breaking down all the history that happened and explaining it we will just look for the point that Hamilton draws from it. This history is key to understand the background of what Hamilton is aiming for in his argument but they can be separate writings themselves.

Hamilton argues that Pericles, because of a prostitute, was willing to enter into a costly war and destroyed the city of the Samnians. Not only that, but he also had a private vendetta against another group, the Magarensians, whatever it might have been—one cause or many mixed together—and that brought about the famous Peloponnesian war. The war finally ended in the destruction of Athens. The argument made by Hamilton is that war can proceed from the stupidest, most unrelated things. War does not always proceed from one nation attacking to offending another in some way but through all kinds of petty issues between nations or even just some of the attitudes within the nations.

Hamilton drew upon several historical examples to make his point that war between nations may come from unexpected sources and all of these sources cannot possibly be known and they definitely cannot all be prevented beforehand. Hamilton did not wish to continue on with example after example but just gave a few for illustration.

“To multiply examples of the agency of personal considerations in the production of great national events, either foreign or domestic, according to their direction, would be an unnecessary waste of time.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #6. Concerning Dangers from War between the States. Online version, p. 22 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Giving examples for the sake of examples was not Hamilton’s goal. He said that he could have continued to give multiple examples that would prove his point but that his argument stood for itself.

“Those who have but a superficial acquaintance with the sources from which they are to be drawn, will themselves recollect a variety of instances; and those who have a tolerable knowledge of human nature, will not stand in need of such lights, to form their opinion either of the reality or extent of that agency.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #6. Concerning Dangers from War between the States. Online version, p. 22 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Even a small knowledge of these things and history and experience would show anyone, Hamilton agued, that there are an ocean of examples of war arising between nations from an unexpected cause or causes. Even superficial knowledge or even pretending to understand the examples would be enough to prove the argument.

Also, those who understood human nature at a basic level just from observation would be able to see the truth of the argument without any examples. Hamilton constructed an argument that could have stood alone. Often that is something missed by many students and writers who seek to argue something but only argue from examples. The strength of an argument lies in the ability to present and defend it without examples. In other words, examples will not give a theory a foundation when it does not have one. Examples are meant to be windows to see into a house and gain a clearer picture but not the foundation of a house. Even if history was ignored, Hamilton still believed that those who understood human nature would be able to follow what he was saying.

“If SHAYS had not been a desperate debtor, it is much to be doubted whether Massachusetts would have been plunged into a civil war.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #6. Concerning Dangers from War between the States. Online version, p. 22 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

As I was brushing up a little bit on Shay’s Rebellion this week, I realize just how pivotal it was in leading to the Constitutional Convention. That is why it is mentioned here by Hamilton and it would have been fresh in the minds of the people. Be on the lookout for a post from Political Factions that devotes some special attention to Shay’s Rebellion itself.

Shay’s Rebellion was an uprising in Massachusetts led by a man named Daniel Shays who led a revolt because of the state’s refusal to accept certain kinds of devalued currency which kept the people in heavy debt. After the Revolutionary War had ended each state had the responsibility to pay the debt of the war and this led to strains on each state and highlighted the need for a different form of federal government. The fact that people could rise up against a state drove many men to action concerning the Articles of Confederation and created more urgency.

Hamilton brought the minds of his readers back to this rebellion and implied that similar events would become even more frequent and violent as time passed on. One of the possible motivations for the rebellion that Hamilton acknowledged was the fact that Shays was in heavy debt and was desperate. Either way, for whatever cause, he led an uprising against his own state. Was Shays an oddity, an unusual example, an outlier, a deviation from the norm? Or was it possible that Shays was an average example of what a person might do against even his own state when he was under severe pressure? Hamilton implied the latter.

“But notwithstanding the concurring testimony of experience, in this particular, there are still to be found visionary, or designing men, who stand ready to advocate the paradox of perpetual peace between the states, though dismembered and alienated from each other. . . . The genius of republics, say they, is pacific; the spirit of commerce has a tendency to soften the manners of men, and to extinguish those inflammable humours which have so often kindled into wars. Commercial republics, like ours, will never be disposed to waste themselves in ruinous contentions with each other. They will be governed by mutual interest, and will cultivate a spirit of mutual amity and concord.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #6. Concerning Dangers from War between the States. Online version, p. 23 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Hamilton stated that even though he believed normal human experience to clearly point in one direction that there were still “visionaries,” theoretical idealists, who believed that there could be enduring peace between states that were separated instead of brought together by a Union, under a common government. Hamilton minimized those who held to that position as those who had an unrealistic view of history and human nature and who ignored experience.

The argument of the other side, which Hamilton is confronting, is that republics are more peaceful and that commerce between them gives them a heavy incentive not to fight each other. This view does have some merit to it and Hamilton was not saying that the whole argument is totally worthless. Hamilton might have believed that a republic is more peaceful and that commerce could contribute to that but the idea that republican government and commerce would extinguish the causes of conflict between the states was inaccurate. This argument—that democratic nations, involved in commerce together, are more peaceful—is foundational to the international relations theory of Liberalism (which is not the same as ideological, political liberalism). This is an international theory that asserts that democratic nations are more peaceful will avoid war because of the interconnectedness of their economies.

Hamilton restated the argument that would be raised against his, that commercial republics—democratic nations involved in commerce and trade—would never waste their time in costly wars with each other because it would be against their interests so surely the states within America would behave the same way. Hamilton disagreed with this idea.

“Have republics in practice been less addicted to war than monarchies? Are not the former administered by men as well as the latter?… Are not popular assemblies frequently subject to the impulses of rage, resentment, jealousy, avarice, and of other irregular and violent propensities?”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #6. Concerning Dangers from War between the States. Online version, p. 23 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Hamilton posed a series of rhetorical questions to show the weakness of the other argument. Not all of the questions are quoted here but a few of them are. The clear and implied answer to most of these questions is no.

The people would have been proud that they had freed themselves from a monarchy; they did not have a king rule over them but ruled their own lives. Americans have traditionally been very opposed to kings because of their propensity to become tyrannical. One of the other issues with kings, it would have been argued, was that they could basically choose to go to war whenever they wanted, without the consent of the people, and the people would have to fight and die in a war that they did not choose. But Hamilton flipped argument around on those who would have argued that position by asking if republics had ultimately been more peaceful than monarchies. The answer to this, implied by Hamilton, is obviously no.

The reasoning Hamilton proposed for why this was the case was that whether a government was a monarchy or a republic did not matter but what mattered was the fact that both systems were ruled by men (not males, but humans). Human nature was a key aspect that dictated war and neither republics nor monarchies escaped or rose above human nature.

The argument could even be made, based on the propensity of human nature to cause war alone, that monarchies would be safer than democracies. The risk on a monarchy going to war would be greatly reduced because the decision came down to the human nature of one person: the monarch. In a democracy, however, where the people rule, the people or a majority of them make the decision, therefore, the decision to go to war is based on the human nature of many people. Certainly Hamilton would have argued this.

Those who advocated the Constitution were not interested in an unchecked democracy. They believed that unchecked democracy was one of the worst forms of government because it was inefficient, did not keep order, and allowed for the ultimate destruction of rights in the name of liberty. The confusion with this term is that America is a democratic society or a democracy in terms of our international standing because we meet the conditions for a democracy, however, a democracy can be distinguished from a republic in which popular will governs indirectly and rights are protected by the law. Sometimes “democracy” and “republic” can be used interchangeably and sometimes they are not. It depends on the context in which the words are used.

Further on this same point, Hamilton asked whether “popular assemblies”—those guided by the will and voted of the majority—have been driven to do bad things including war and infringing on rights. The answer to that question is obviously supposed to be yes.

After posing these rhetorical questions for the thoughts of his readers, Hamilton said, “Let experience, the least fallible guide of human opinions, be appealed to for an answer to these inquiries.”[1] Hamilton asked the people to remember what they themselves had experienced in their lifetimes and asked them to appeal to that experience and see whether he was right or wrong. We might argue with Hamilton here that “experience” is the least fallible guide of opinion but it appears that he just means for this particular case. In other words, nothing more than simple experience is needed to prove Hamilton’s statements and answer his questions. In case that was not enough, more examples were provided by Hamilton.

“Sparta, Athens, Rome, and Carthage, were all republics; two of them, Athens and Carthage, of the commercial kind. Yet were they as often engaged in wars, offensive and defensive, as the neighbouring monarchies of the same times.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #6. Concerning Dangers from War between the States. Online version, pp. 23-24 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

There were other famous and powerful republics in history and even commercial republics but that did not prevent them from being involved in both offensive wars and defensive wars, wars of attack and wars of defense from attack. These republics went to wars just like monarchies in the same time and in a similar place. Republics, Hamilton asserted, were not immune to war. Instead of blaming monarchical government for war, Hamilton believed what should be blamed (and held in check by a constitutional government) was the human propensity to go to war.

“Carthage, though a commercial republic, was the aggressor in the very war that ended in her destruction.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #6. Concerning Dangers from War between the States. Online version, p. 23 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Republics are also not always the defensive party when they do go to war. The example bolstering this point is the example of Carthage. Carthage was a republic that was engaged in commerce and trade but it was the aggressor in the famous offensive war that brought Carthage to an end. Republics are not above war, they are not above offensive war, and they are not above destroying themselves through war.

“In the government of Britain the representatives of the people compose one branch of the national legislature. Commerce has been for ages the predominant pursuit of that country. Yet few nations have been more frequently engaged in war; and the wars, in which that kingdom has been engaged, have in numerous instances proceeded from the people. There have been, if I may so express it, almost as many popular as royal wars.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #6. Concerning Dangers from War between the States. Online version, p. 24 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

A more modern example, for us and the readers of Hamilton’s own time, is Britain. Britain even had a form of representative government and it participated heavily in commerce, however, hardly any other nations, Hamilton explained, had been more involved in war than Britain. These were also not just wars decided by a king or an aristocracy but often wars that were brought about by the people themselves. In Hamilton’s estimation, for almost every royal war—fought because of someone like the monarch—there was a popular was to match it.

“The wars of these two last mentioned nations have in a great measure grown out of commercial considerations: the desire of supplanting, and the fear of being supplanted.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #6. Concerning Dangers from War between the States. Online version, pp. 24-25 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Not only were many popular wars fought but many wars were fought for commercial reasons. The issue was that commerce was what was supposed to prevent war between nations. Not only did commerce not stop war in these cases but commerce was the driving cause of these wars. The commercial wars could come from supplanting another nation in order to gain power over it or the fear that another nation would supplant them. It is the situation of killing or being killed, eating or being eaten. And in many cases, people would commit and offense against another nation that their own nation condemned, war would ensue, and “…the innocent were after a while confounded with the guilty in indiscriminate punishment.”[2] This led Hamilton to his conclusion.

“From this summary of what has taken place in other countries, whose situations have borne the nearest resemblance to our own, what reason can we have to confide in those reveries, which would seduce us into the expectation of peace and cordiality between the members of the present confederacy, in a state of separation? Have we not already seen enough of the fallacy and extravagance of those idle theories which have amused us with promises of an exemption from the imperfections, the weaknesses, and the evils incident to society in every shape? Is it not time to awake from the deceitful dream of a golden age, and to adopt as a practical maxim for the direction of our political conduct, that we, as well as the other inhabitants of the globe, are yet remote from the happy empire of perfect wisdom and perfect virtue?”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #6. Concerning Dangers from War between the States. Online version, p. 25 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Was America so special that it could avoid these pitfalls without fundamentally changing anything in the form of its government? If history teaches lessons for the present and the future and gives a prologue, then other nations had to be learned from. After observing some examples of other nations who were in a similar to America in many ways, Hamilton believed that Americans should not be so filled with pride as to neglect the lessons and imagine that they were exempt from the same historical factors. Hubris would lead the people of America to ignore these things and think that they were above what other nations had not been and that they could not possibly continue to live in a state of peace while separated into various sovereign states or even confederacies.

What Hamilton argued for was a pragmatic and realistic solution. He disdained theories that did not take a realistic view of human nature and of history, that made a nation believe that it was superior to others of the past, that did not work in actual practice but were nice to dream about and imagine, and that ignored imperfection and weaknesses. Hamilton believed that it was foolish to look for some sort of “golden age” or to ever believe that a state was in a new age. He said that it might be allowable to believe that in an esoteric way but when it came down to actually making practical policy decisions that that thinking should not enter in. He said that it was time to awake from that “deceitful dream.” His argument is interesting because he says that it is time to enter a type of golden age that acknowledges that there is no “golden age.” He believed it would be possible to enter a better age but that it would have to come through humility in learning the lessons from the past and acknowledging the negative possibilities within human nature.

“Let the point of extreme depression to which our national dignity and credit have sunk; let the inconveniencies felt every where from a lax and ill administration of government; let the revolt of a part of the state of North Carolina; the late menacing disturbances in Pennsylvania, and the actual insurrections and rebellions in Massachusetts, declare!”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #6. Concerning Dangers from War between the States. Online version, p. 25 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Hamilton brings the readers sharply back to the reality of some of the imperfections and problems that they had to face because of their current system of government. He said that the reputation of America had declined because of their situation and related to that they had credit along with their vast debt. The system was extremely inconvenient and inefficient because government was being administered badly. There were revolts that could not be ignored. All these things Hamilton called on as a witness to the fact that their government was not some golden age but the opposite.

“So far is the general sense of mankind from corresponding with the tenets of those, who endeavour to lull asleep our apprehensions of discord and hostility between the states, in the event of disunion, that it has from long observation of the progress of society become a sort of axiom in politics, that vicinity, or nearness of situation, constitutes nations natural enemies.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #6. Concerning Dangers from War between the States. Online version, pp. 25-26 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

There were those, Hamilton said, who aimed to calm the apprehensions that people had concerning the state of the government and quell the urgency that many had to change it. Hamilton said this was like trying to get the people to go back to sleep instead of deal with the problem. He said that what he and the others for the Constitution were arguing had become a general principle of politics, that nations that are disunited are likely to get into conflict with each other. This was opposed to what Hamilton referred to as the general sense of mankind. The principle was that nations (or states treated like nations) who are close to each other—even if they have republican government or engage in commerce with each other—will become enemies at some point. This would be the fate without entering into the Union under the Constitution.

“An intelligent writer expresses himself on this subject to this effect: ‘Neighbouring nations (says he) are naturally enemies of each other, unless their common weakness forces them to league in a confederate republic, and their constitution prevents the differences that neighbourhood occasions, extinguishing that secret jealousy, which disposes all states to aggrandize themselves at the expense of their neighbours.’* This passage, at the same time, points out the evil and suggests the remedy.”—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #6. Concerning Dangers from War between the States. Online version, p. 26 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Hamilton finally appealed to another writer on this subject. The writer expressed that neighboring nations—those nations that are next to each other—are natural enemies. We can argue with Hamilton or the writer on this point but it has been true in a significant amount of cases. The cure for this is when those nations are joined into some form of union with a constitution that prevents them from falling into conflict by taking away the power to operate independently in some spheres. By giving some specific freedoms up, freedom is ultimately preserved. Hamilton believed that this passage did not just observe a problem but actually proposed a realistic solution.

[1] Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #6. Concerning Dangers from War between the States. Online version, p. 23 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

[2] Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #6. Concerning Dangers from War between the States. Online version, p. 25 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]


Commentary on Federalist #1 (Video)


Commentary on Federalist #5

Commentary on Federalist #5

For those who are tired of the writing of John Jay you are not out of the woods yet because he also composed Federalist #5. Not only that but he, again, continues on the same subject that he has been discussing since the second paper. We have to appreciate, however we might feel about Jay, his ability to craft an argument over the course of four successive papers. Personally, I have enjoyed reading Jay because I usually just remember the writings of Madison and Hamilton so it was like reading something new. In the fifth paper he continues his argument concerning the dangers of foreign force and influence.

As a side note, please excuse the common shifts between past and present tense. There are some sentences that just do not seem to work any other way than in past and present tense and it is a shame they have to be in the same paper. On the one hand, when I write about what Jay said I have been told to speak about in the present tense as if he says it now, for example, “Jay argues….” On the other hand, we are discussing the past and it is not always true of our situation now because a lot of things have already come to pass, for example, “Jay said…” or “Jay made the point…” For those who appreciate the mechanics and structure of grammar, I am not unaware of the problem but there does not always seem to be a clear way to avoid it.

The text of Federalist No. 5.

“Queen Ann, in her letter of the 1st July, 1706, to the Scotch Parliament, makes some observations on the importance of the union then forming between England and Scotland, which merit our attention.”—John Jay, The Same Subject Continued (Concerning Dangers From Foreign Force and Influence), For the Independent Journal. Saturday, November 10, 1787, p. 17 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Taking an example from history, Jay laid out the groundwork to complete his argument on this subject. He took a letter written by Queen Ann that would have been about 81 years old to Jay at the time and used it to bolster his argument that Union was necessary. He used two quotations from this queen which he believed could be applied to the American situation.

“‘An entire and perfect union will be the solid foundation of lasting peace: it will secure your religion, liberty and property, remove the animosities amongst yourselves, and the jealousies and differences betwixt our two kingdoms. It must increase your strength, riches and trade; and by this union the whole island, being joined in affection and free from all apprehensions of different interests, will be enabled to resist all its enemies.’”—John Jay, The Same Subject Continued (Concerning Dangers From Foreign Force and Influence), For the Independent Journal. Saturday, November 10, 1787, p. 17 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Understand that this is a quotation and not just words written by Jay. Queen Ann wrote in her letter that a union would be the solid foundation for ultimate peace. She was speaking at the time to Scotland and telling them that they should be united with Britain. She also gave a list of benefits that would be provided in a union that would not be safe outside of it. She mentioned that their religion would be secure, that their property would be secure, and that it would remove animosities between the people of Scotland and conflict between Scotland and England. Not only that, but she argued that it would be a positive benefit to their trade and commerce and that the whole island of Britain, instead of being divided against each other, would be united and could defend itself against common enemies. This is the same point that Jay himself is tried to make. He used a second quotation from the same letter to further his argument.

“‘We most earnestly recommend to you calmness and unanimity in this great and weighty affair, that the union may be brought to a happy conclusion; being the only effectual way to secure our present and future happiness, and disappoint the designs of our and your enemies, who will doubtless, on this occasion, use their utmost endeavours to prevent or delay this union.’”—John Jay, The Same Subject Continued (Concerning Dangers From Foreign Force and Influence), For the Independent Journal. Saturday, November 10, 1787, p. 17 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

The two things that Queen Ann seriously recommended to Scotland were “calmness” and “unanimity.” In other words, she recommended that they should think reasonably and rationally about the issue and should being fully decided with the whole country. She also claimed that union was the only true—“effectual”—way to secure happiness for their countries in the short term and in the long term, in the present and in the future. Union of their countries, she argued, would be the only way to effectually thwart the plans of their mutual enemies. In fact, she said that their enemies would be against their union because it would give them an advantage over the two.

Jay basically allowed these two quotations to speak for themselves. He hardly added anything to them or commented on them at all. In his thinking he believed that the quotes were so relevant to the situation that people would not have to have the quotations explained to them.

“It was remarked in the preceding paper, that weakness and divisions at home, would invite dangers from abroad, and that nothing would tend more to secure us from them than union, strength and good government within ourselves.”—John Jay, The Same Subject Continued (Concerning Dangers From Foreign Force and Influence), For the Independent Journal. Saturday, November 10, 1787, p. 17 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Some brief review on the last paper is provided wherein Jay sums up what his whole argument was in the last paper. His simple point was that weakness and divisions that were the result of lack of Union between the states, with no national, federal government, would invite danger because other nations would be led to take advantage of the situation instead of deterred. Jay argued that nothing would be safer or more secure than the formation of a Union because it would provide strength and good government. Jay even remarked, “This subject is copious and cannot easily be exhausted.”[1] In other words, he could have probably gone on to make several more arguments that would have proven the same point. This is why he had so many papers dealing with the same subject.

“The history of Great-Britain is the one with which we are in general the best acquainted, and it gives us many useful lessons. We may profit by their experience, without paying the price which it cost them.”—John Jay, The Same Subject Continued (Concerning Dangers From Foreign Force and Influence), For the Independent Journal. Saturday, November 10, 1787, pp. 17-18 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Instead of just looking at the present situation or looking ahead to what might occur in the future if the present government were to continue, Jay looked back to the past in order to show historical examples.

Most people would have had at least some knowledge of the history of Britain and Jay argued that it provided many lessons that the Americans could learn from. Better than that, the Americans had the opportunity to learn the lessons of history without having to experience the consequences that those in the past had to experience. The point is that a wise person or nations will learn from the experience of others and hopefully would be able to repeat their mistakes.

“Although it seems obvious to common sense, that the people of such an island should be but one nation, yet we find that they were for ages divided into three, and that those three were almost constantly embroiled in quarrels and wars with one another.”—John Jay, The Same Subject Continued (Concerning Dangers From Foreign Force and Influence), For the Independent Journal. Saturday, November 10, 1787, p. 18 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

The readers of this Federalist Paper might have been under the impression that Britain, as an island, had always been a united nation and the readers of this article might have the same understanding. Jay pointed out that that was not true. In fact, for much of history they were divided into three separate, independent states and not only that but those three separate sovereignties were almost always fighting between themselves. The historical record shows that there was major conflict between these three powers and that they were not always united.

“Notwithstanding their true interest, with respect to the continental nations, was really the same, yet by the arts and policy and practices of those nations, their mutual jealousies were perpetually kept enflamed, and for a long series of years they were far more inconvenient and troublesome, than they were useful and assisting to each other.”—John Jay, The Same Subject Continued (Concerning Dangers From Foreign Force and Influence), For the Independent Journal. Saturday, November 10, 1787, p. 18 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Even though fighting each other was against all of their interests they still could not seem to help themselves and Jay saw the cause of those conflicts to be lack of union between them. They had the same interests essentially but because of policy and practices of them individually they could not avoid conflict with one another. Instead of helping each other which would have been the result under a union of some sort, they were a hindrance to each other’s interests and thereby a hindrance to their own interests. Following that description, Jay asked the people reading his paper the obvious rhetorical question,

“Should the people of America divide themselves into three or four nations, would not the same thing happen?”—John Jay, The Same Subject Continued (Concerning Dangers From Foreign Force and Influence), For the Independent Journal. Saturday, November 10, 1787, p. 18 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Jay argued from the conclusions that he had drawn about Britain which the people could remember from history, that America could not be divided and suffer the same fate or worse. Based on a realistic view of human nature and how states behave Jay was not so optimistic that he could see the Americans overcoming this historical phenomenon.

“…envy and jealousy would soon extinguish confidence and affection, and the partial interests of each confederacy instead of the general interests of all America, would be the only objects of their policy and pursuits.”—John Jay, The Same Subject Continued (Concerning Dangers From Foreign Force and Influence), For the Independent Journal. Saturday, November 10, 1787, p. 18 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

This was Jay’s prediction if America was allowed to remain as separate states or confederacies with no powerful federal government to unite them. It is a grim prediction. The interests of part of the country would be raised about the general interests of the whole country and this would cause even more conflict and strife between the states which could lead to war. Keep in mind also that the danger would not just be internal but would be external. All thirteen states or the confederacies formed would be moving in separate and possibly conflicting directions. Jay believed that this would end in disaster.

“Hence, like most other bordering nations, they would always be either involved in disputes and war, or live in the constant apprehension of them.”—John Jay, The Same Subject Continued (Concerning Dangers From Foreign Force and Influence), For the Independent Journal. Saturday, November 10, 1787, p. 18 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Instead of acting like states in a union they would act and already were acting like separate nations that simply shared a border. The risk of this would be that they would always have some sort of dispute or issue that had to be solved between them with no disinterested judge over them that would have proper authority to judge between them. The only course of action would usually be war between the states. If war was not the result then the states would have to be worried that there might be a war. This is the influence of Hobbes who claimed that war is not just in actual fighting but in the known disposition to fight. (For more on Hobbes see the article about him on the Political Factions page). In other words, they would not just have to fight but they would have to be concerned about the possibility of fighting with other states.

“For it cannot be presumed that the same degree of sound policy, prudence and foresight would uniformly be observed by each of these confederacies, for a long succession of years.”—John Jay, The Same Subject Continued (Concerning Dangers From Foreign Force and Influence), For the Independent Journal. Saturday, November 10, 1787, p. 18 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

An optimistic thinker might theorize that if states were just aware of those risks and dangers ahead of time they could avoid falling into those traps. If all the states simply agreed not to take those actions and follow those paths that have been described by Jay and have been seen in history. Jay and the other defenders of the Constitution were not necessarily pessimistic but they were realistic about how people and states behave.

If the government had to depend on people to always do what was good and right and just then it is really not a good government that could keep order in reality. A good and efficient government could not make the assumption that people and states would just behave themselves and, therefore, the government would not have to do anything. They could not presume that each state or confederacy would—without the demand of a powerful federal government—be able to adopt uniform policies for long. To expect all states to operate the same way, to pursue the same interests, to always see eye-to-eye in disputes, and so on would not be possible in the long-term even if it could happen in the short-term.

“Whenever, and from whatever causes, it might happen, and happen it would, that any one of these nations or confederacies, should rise on the scale of political importance much above the degree of her neighbours, that moment would those neighbours behold her with envy and with fear.”—John Jay, The Same Subject Continued (Concerning Dangers From Foreign Force and Influence), For the Independent Journal. Saturday, November 10, 1787, p. 18 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Jay argued that in time—even if it was a long time—eventually some states or confederacies would gain advantages over other states or confederacies. These states or confederations might have entered into treaties with other nations, had commerce that was successful, had resources within their state which could be used and so on and these things might make a state or confederacy grow to be more important and more powerful than other states and confederacies.

Jay argued that when this would happen—being absolutely convinced that it would happen—the weaker states or less-advantaged states would either look to the stronger or more-advantaged states with envy or with fear. Either the less-advantaged states would be envious or jealous of the wealth of the more successful states which could have potentially led to conflict between the states or the weaker states could view the stronger states with fear and conflict between the states could arise from there.

“Distrust naturally creates distrust, and by nothing is good will and kind conduct more speedily changed, than by invidious jealousies and uncandid imputations, whether expressed or implied.”—John Jay, The Same Subject Continued (Concerning Dangers From Foreign Force and Influence), For the Independent Journal. Saturday, November 10, 1787, p. 19 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

This memorable statement lays out the issue extremely well. Good will and kind conduct, Jay argued, can be quickly changed by jealousies and unclear accusations. These things can be expressed outright or merely implied. This is the situation that the states and people were subject to.

“The North is generally the region of strength, and many local circumstances render it probable, that the most northern of the proposed confederacies would, at a period not very far distant, be unquestionably more formidable then any of the others.”—John Jay, The Same Subject Continued (Concerning Dangers From Foreign Force and Influence), For the Independent Journal. Saturday, November 10, 1787, p. 19 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

In a moment of unknown foresight Jay made mention of a situation that would be involved in the Civil War. The North was a region with many more economic opportunities that would likely become stronger than the South. This was in context, of course, of the imaginary scenario that was constructed by Jay to make the point that the states should not remained separated as states or into confederacies. It is interesting that the Civil War occurred once certain Southern states left the Union in order to form a confederacy of states.

“They who well consider the history of similar divisions and confederacies, will find abundant reasons to apprehend, that those in contemplation would in no other sense be neighbours, than as they would be borderers; that they would neither love nor trust one another, but on the contrary would be a prey to discord, jealousy and mutual injuries; in short, that they would place us exactly in the situation in which some nations doubtless wish to see us, in which we should be formidable only to each other.”—John Jay, The Same Subject Continued (Concerning Dangers From Foreign Force and Influence), For the Independent Journal. Saturday, November 10, 1787, p. 19 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Again, Jay pointed back to history in order to show how when nations split themselves into separate states or confederacies that it led to their destruction. He wrote that history in his time was replete with examples of these failures. He claimed that the people who split themselves would no longer be neighbors but merely borderers and as such they would neither love nor trust each other. Union would make love and trust between the people more likely, however, in separate states they would not be forced to be together. In other words, that would be the position they would be in and how some nations currently saw them. Instead of being formidable to foreign enemies if they were together in a Union they would only be formidable to each other and a joke to foreign enemies who would even take advantage of them.

“From these considerations it appears that those persons are greatly mistaken, who suppose that alliances offensive and defensive might be formed between these confederacies, which would produce that combination and union of wills, of arms, and of resources, which would be necessary to put and keep them in a formidable state of defence against foreign enemies.”—John Jay, The Same Subject Continued (Concerning Dangers From Foreign Force and Influence), For the Independent Journal. Saturday, November 10, 1787, p. 19 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Jay argued that the people who believed that defensive and offensive alliances in war that would be formed between states or confederacies would unite all the wills of the people, would combine arms and resources, and provide all things necessary for a war were wrong. Not only were these people who had this point of view mistaken, according to Jay, but they were greatly mistaken. Jay made the point that it would not be possible to fight either a defensive or offensive war and be successful against a foreign enemy or enemies.

“The proposed confederacies will be distinct nations. Each of them would have to regulate its commerce with foreigners by distinct treaties; and as their productions and commodities are different, and proper for different markets, so would those treaties be essentially different.”—John Jay, The Same Subject Continued (Concerning Dangers From Foreign Force and Influence), For the Independent Journal. Saturday, November 10, 1787, p. 19 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Simply put, these confederacies would be their own nations which would be contradictory to a united people. To be distinct nations would mean, by definition, that they would be separated and separateness is opposed to union.

Each state or group of states would regulate its own commerce which was one of the main issues for why the Constitution had to be constructed. Several states had their own currency which made commerce with other nations nearly impossible. The differentness and uniqueness of states was not a bad thing, in fact, it is a good thing in the right context but if they are to be united then they would have to be fully united under a single, federal government. Under a Union the advantage of one state is an advantage to all the states either directly or indirectly but without union the states would be hindered by conflict and inefficiency and even war between them.

“Hence it might and probably would happen, that the foreign nation with whom the Southern confederacy might be at war, would be the one, with whom the Northern confederacy would be the most desirous of preserving peace and friendship.”—John Jay, The Same Subject Continued (Concerning Dangers From Foreign Force and Influence), For the Independent Journal. Saturday, November 10, 1787, p. 20 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Jay gave another example for his readers to imagine. There could be a scenario in which the Southern confederacy would be at war with a foreign nation and the Northern confederacy might be interested in continuing to pursue a peaceful, beneficial relationship with that same foreign nation. The divergent and unique interests of the North and South made this a realistic possibility. The situation would basically mean that the North would be tempted to help the war effort against the South or that the North might be dragged by the South into a war in which it has no interest. It might even occur that the North or South in this imaginary situation might make war against each other because of the dispute. Under the Union and the Constitution, however, the situation would change to either the whole nation going to war with the foreign nation or the whole nation deciding to make peace with that foreign nation and continue the relationship.

“Nay, it is far more probable that in America, as in Europe, neighbouring nations, acting under the impulse of opposite interests, and unfriendly passions, would frequently be found taking different sides. Considering our distance from Europe, it would be more natural for these confederacies to apprehend danger from one another, than from distant nations…”—John Jay, The Same Subject Continued (Concerning Dangers From Foreign Force and Influence), For the Independent Journal. Saturday, November 10, 1787, p. 20 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Instead of being likely to all unite together it would be more likely that separate states or confederacies would choose sides, different sides, and fight one another. This had been the case in Europe numerous times in history as Jay made note of. He even said that states would be more likely to fight each other than distant European nations for the geopgraphical fact that the Atlantic Ocean provides a major barrier between America and Europe.

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“Let candid men judge then whether the division of America into any given number of independent sovereignties, would tend to secure us against the hostilities and improper interference of foreign nations.”—John Jay, The Same Subject Continued (Concerning Dangers From Foreign Force and Influence), For the Independent Journal. Saturday, November 10, 1787, p. 20 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Again, Jay invited the people to take these thoughts into consideration as the approached the ratification of the Constitution. He framed the question to them in the terms of whether dividing America or letting it remain divided as it was would be the best path for security from war or influence from foreign nations. The foreign nations would reap the benefit of division but they would be deterred by the states entering into the Union.

[1] John Jay, The Same Subject Continued (Concerning Dangers From Foreign Force and Influence), For the Independent Journal. Saturday, November 10, 1787, p. 17 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]


Commentary on Federalist #4

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Commentary on Federalist #4

In the fourth Federalist Paper, John Kay continued on the same subject that he had been discussing in the previous two (#2 and #3). His subject is still the dangers from foreign force and influence. The simple fact that Jay had so much to write on this subject shows how essential he believed it to be. He obviously did not just see it as something that he could summarize in one paper or two but something that he painstakingly takes the time to write and present.

The text of Federalist No. 4.

“My last paper assigned several reasons why the safety of the people would be best secured by union against the danger it may be exposed to by just causes of war given to other nations; and those reasons show that such causes would not only be more rarely given, but would also be more easily accommodated by a national government, than either by the state governments, or the proposed confederacies.”—John Jay, Federalist No. 4, The Same Subject Continued, p. 13, [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Jay makes reference to the previous paper and how he dealt with the subject of how the people in America would be safer because of Union and how he also outlined the potential danger that could result if other nations were given just causes of war. What Jay meant was that individual states or groups of states united together (confederacies) would be more likely to offend another nation through conflict or breaking some sort of treaty than a whole, united nation would be. If left un-united the states might drag the whole country into the war because there would be no federal government to rein them in.

Jay asserted that with a national government it would be less likely that they would enter into conflict with other nations as often for the simple reason that they would not be thirteen separate states that could potentially go in thirteen different directions. Those type of situations would become more rare under a national government and when they did arise the national government would be in a better position to address them.

“But the safety of the people of America against dangers from foreign force, depends not only on their forbearing to give just causes of war to other nations, but also on their placing and continuing themselves in such a situation as not to invite hostility or insult; for it need not be observed, that there are pretended as well as just causes of war.”—John Jay, Federalist No. 4, The Same Subject Continued, p. 13 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

According to Jay, the best road for the security from foreign force would not just be simply refraining to give other nations a good reason to attack them. Jay argues that even if the states gave other nations absolutely no reason to use force against them that this would not be enough. This answers the question: What if states just act in such a way that does not offend foreign nations? Jay assumes that even then the states would not be guaranteed safety because other nations could still find an excuse for war even if it is not a legitimate reason. The implication Jay makes here is that a national government is a deterrent to mischief that other nations might try with smaller, individual, independent states.

“It is too true, however disgraceful it may be to human nature, that nations in general will make war whenever they have a prospect of getting any thing by it…”—John Jay, Federalist No. 4, The Same Subject Continued, p. 13 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Jay further makes his argument that it would not be enough for the separated states just to avoid offending other nations and inviting war. His point is simply that if the states really expect other nations to only go to war with them when it is just and right then they are in for an unpleasant surprise. Jay does not claim to just live in the theoretical realm but in reality. He keeps in mind a realistic world where people and nations behave as real people and real nations. He says that nations can find an excuse to go to war when they want to get something out of it. His cure for this is a national government that would provide Union under the Constitution.

“But independent of these inducements to war, which are most prevalent in absolute monarchies, but which well deserve our attention, there are others which affect nations as often as kings;…”—John Jay, Federalist No. 4, The Same Subject Continued, p. 13 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Jay moves on from just the idea of war and says that even though it is a subject that is definitely worth thinking about it is not the only danger from foreign nations.

“The extension of our own commerce in our own vessels, cannot give pleasure to any nations who possess territories on or near this continent, because the cheapness and excellence of our productions, added to the circumstance of vicinity, and the enterprise and address of our merchants and navigators, will give us a greater share in the advantages which those territories afford, than consists with the wishes or policy of their respective sovereigns.”—John Jay, Federalist No. 4, The Same Subject Continued, p. 14 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

As America would expand and become a power in the world economically it would not be pleasing to other nations who would be in competition with it. There is also the threat that other nations possessed territory on or near the American continent. This might tempt them to expand their influence or land a little further and infringe on the similar territory in the states. There would also be the threat that as American products became cheaper and more competitive that it would draw the displeasure of other nations who owned territory on the American continent. Jay saw this leading into a likely result.

“…it is easy to see that jealousies and uneasinesses may gradually slide into the minds and cabinets of other nations; and that we are not to expect they should regard our advancement in union, in power and consequence by land and by sea, with an eye of indifference and composure.”—John Jay, Federalist No. 4, The Same Subject Continued, p. 14 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Jay says that it is not hard to imagine a situation where the jealousy of other countries over the success of American enterprise and their uneasiness about their own financial gain could pressure those nations to try to be a danger or influence on the states. Jay again points out that Union would be a cure to this problem.

“The people of America are aware that inducements to war may arise out of these circumstances, as well as from others not so obvious at present;…”—John Jay, Federalist No. 4, The Same Subject Continued, p. 14 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

The people could think of other reasons why other nations might go to war with the states of America but just considering the few examples that he has given it should be enough to make his case that the Union is necessary. He admitted there may have been things that he had not even thought of or considered in this area that could cause other nations to go to war with the states but those unimagined consequences would only serve to prove his argument further.

“Wisely therefore do they consider union and a good national government as necessary to put and keep them in such a situation as instead of inviting war, will tend to repress and discourage it.”—John Jay, Federalist No. 4, The Same Subject Continued, p. 14 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

This is really the whole point of this particular paper. A Union of the States provided by adopting the Constitution would be necessary to curb other nations from wanting to go to war with the states. An un-united group of states would not look as formidable to other nations but if they were united together and had a single, national government then they would suddenly become a much larger force. Instead of inviting war on themselves the people of America would be deterring war and discouraging it through coming together in a Union. The rest of this paper is just Jay laying out the reasons for why he believed that was true.

“As the safety of the whole is the interest of the whole, and cannot be provided for without government, either one or more or many, let us inquire whether one good government is not, relative to the object in question, more competent than any other given number whatever.”—John Jay, Federalist No. 4, The Same Subject Continued, p. 15 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

All states and people have an interest in safety and that safety cannot be provided without government. That is Jay’s argument. This can either be done by one government or it can be done by multiple governments. The subject that Jay took up and argued for was that one government would be more competent than multiple governments in providing for the safety of the people.

“One government can collect and avail itself of the talents and experience of the ablest men, in whatever part of the union they may be found.”—John Jay, Federalist No. 4, The Same Subject Continued, p. 15 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

What are the reasons that Jay gives for justifying his claim that one government is better for security? He argues that one government would have more available to it and would be able to collect all the tools and resources of the whole people rather than multiple governments. A state only has the resources of that state at its disposal but it cannot count on using the resources of all the states to accomplish its goals or defend itself. On the other hand, a national government can use all resources that it has in all the states, not just in one or a few. The national, federal government would have less limitation on resources for war.

“…uniform principles of policy. It can harmonize, assimilate, and protect the several parts and members, and extend the benefit of its foresight and precautions to each. In the formation of treaties it will regard the interest of the whole…”—John Jay, Federalist No. 4, The Same Subject Continued, p. 15 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Another benefit of a national government is that it would not have multiple methods of operation. In other words, it would be able to introduce a singular, uniform policy to be carried out. This would be much more likely to avoid conflicting commands and plans of action in war. This would make war much more efficient, therefore, they would be more likely to win.

Not only that but, aside from war, a national federal government would have the benefit of making treaties with one interpretation of them rather than thirteen different treaties with thirteen different—possibly conflicting—treaties.

“It can apply the resources and power of the whole to the defence of any particular part, and that more easily and expeditiously than state governments, or separate confederacies can possibly do, for want of concert and unity of system. It can place the militia under one plan of discipline,…”—John Jay, Federalist No. 4, The Same Subject Continued, p. 15 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Also during a time of war resources of the whole country would be available and the federal government could allocate them in order to defend any part of the country that needed it. That might be possible with state governments but they would each be acting with their own plan. It would be a disorganized system that would not be dependable. Overall the point of the Constitution and the Union is that it would make the federal government “more efficient.”[1]

“What would the militia of Britain be, if the English militia obeyed the government of England, if the Scotch militia obeyed the government of Scotland, and if the Welch militia obeyed the government of Wales?”—John Jay, Federalist No. 4, The Same Subject Continued, p. 15 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Jay, here, asks a rhetorical question, that is, to ask it is to answer it. He illustrates for the minds of the people how powerful Britain would be if they—instead of having one, united force—had separate ones for England, Scotland and Wales. Those would just be three British states with separate militias and it would probably be a disaster but go further and imagine how America would operate in war with thirteen separate armies. He even goes further with his example.

“Let England have its navigation and fleet… let Scotland have its navigation and fleet… let Wales have its navigation and fleet… let Ireland have its navigation and fleet… let those four of the constituent parts of the British empire be under four independent governments, and it is easy to perceive how soon they would each dwindle into comparative insignificance.”—John Jay, Federalist No. 4, The Same Subject Continued, pp. 15-16 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

England could have a navy, Scotland could have a navy, Wales could have a navy, Ireland could have a navy, but in that situation, Jay argues, the greatness of the British military force would be greatly diminished. That type of system would totally weaken Britain and take away the power it held in the world but the same reasoning, then, must be applied to America.

“Apply these facts to our own case. Leave America divided into thirteen, or if you please into three or four independent governments, what armies could they raise and pay, what fleets could they ever hope to have?”—John Jay, Federalist No. 4, The Same Subject Continued, p. 16 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

If America was to remain divided as it was then it would suffer the same disaster type of disaster or worse that Jay had described in his example. Defense could not be raised, soldiers could not be paid, fleets could not be gathered. It would be an organizational circus if all states were left to go their own way in the event of a war.

“But admit that they might be willing to help the invaded state or confederacy. How, and when, and in what proportion shall aids of men and money be afforded? Who shall command the allied armies,… Who shall settle the terms of peace,…?”—John Jay, Federalist No. 4, The Same Subject Continued, p. 16 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

The next question Jay tackles is this: What if the states or confederacies are simply willing to help each other in time of war? For Jay, the issue still remains. They could not pay the men or figure out an equitable pay system because states had their own currency, there would not be a clear chain of command—the federal government, the state government, the individual commander over the militia?—and there would be no way for thirteen states to really agree on how to settle and makes terms of peace with a foreign nation. Imagine that some states want peace on certain terms and that other states do not. There would be no clear end to the war. What is the alternative?

“Various difficulties and inconveniences would be inseparable from such a situation; whereas one government watching over the general and common interests, and combining and directing the powers and resources of the whole, would be free from all these embarrassments, and conduce far more to the safety of the people.”—John Jay, Federalist No. 4, The Same Subject Continued, p. 16 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

All types of inefficiency could have arisen from that system but the other option that Jay was proposing was the acceptance of the Constitution and of the Union that it would create. One government could watch over the interests of all the states and not just one or a few, it could combine forces in a war and direct them without as much confusion, one government would look more legitimate in the eyes of other nations without those type of “embarrassments,” and one government could instill confidence in the people because it would have the power to protect them.

“But whatever may be our situation, whether firmly united under one national government, or split into a number of confederacies, certain it is, that foreign nations will know and view it exactly as it is, and they will act towards us accordingly. If they see that our national government is efficient and well administered… our trade prudently regulated… our militia properly organized and disciplined… our resources and finances discreetly managed… our credit re-established . . . our people free, contented and united, they will be much more disposed to cultivate our friendship, than to provoke our resentment. If, on the other hand, they find us either destitute of an effectual government, (each state doing right or wrong as to its rulers may seem convenient)…what a poor pitiful figure will America make in their eyes! How liable would she become not only to their contempt, but to their outrage; and how soon would dear bought experience proclaim, that when a people or family so divide, it never fails to be against themselves.”—John Jay, Federalist No. 4, The Same Subject Continued, p. 16 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

In concluding this paper Jay says that foreign nations will be the constant in the equation. He believed that they would act toward them as either one nation or split and divided states. He said whether people chose the Constitution and Union or whether they decided to remain divided under the current system that foreign nations would be able to see the situation for what it was and would adapt.

If they saw the national government as efficient, control over trade, an organized military force, proper managing of finances and resources, free people, content and united, then they would be more inclined to be friendly with the United States. America would gain legitimacy this way and would be taken seriously by other nations in the world. They would have to prove themselves by doing all these things and all these things could only be accomplished under the federal government outlined in the Constitution.

On the other hand, if foreign nations saw all the disorganization and immaturity that would result from thirteen states not having their affairs in order and with no official, national government ruling over them, with each state doing whatever it thinks is right, then other nations would not take America seriously as a nation. Not only would it not be taken seriously but it would be pitied and taken advantage of. It would even make other countries angry and it would invite conflict with other nations. Jay finishes off his paper by saying that whenever a group of people or a family divide it is always to their own hurt.

[1] John Jay, Federalist No. 4, The Same Subject Continued, p. 15 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]


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Commentary on Federalist #3

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Commentary on Federalist #3

John Jay continued the same subject in the third paper. The subject theme that he continued to write about was dangers from foreign nations and influence. In this paper Jay laid out arguments about how a united, federal government—constitutional government—is superior to divided government in that it allows the state to make more moderate decisions with regards to conflicts of states and treaties with foreign nations. In this paper Jay dealt with some subjects that we tend to take for granted because we have not known differently but imagine what it might be like if the federal government was not in place and did not have the power that it has from the Constitution.

The text of Federalist No. 3.

“It is not a new observation that the people of any country (if like the Americans intelligent and well informed) seldom adopt, and steadily persevere for many years, in any erroneous opinion respecting their interests. That consideration naturally tends to create great respect for the high opinion which the people of America have so long and uniformly entertained of the importance of their continuing firmly united under one federal government, vested with sufficient powers for all general and national purposes.”­­—John Jay, The Same Subject Continued, Federalist No. 3, p. 3 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

The first observation that Jay made concerning the same thing he discussed in the last paper is that most people tend to entertain policies that are not opposed to their interest. Said positively, people choose policies that are in their interest. This is an implementation of rational choice theory, that is, people tend to act in the direction and with the consideration of their self-interest. This is different than selfishness and is just the natural tendency to choose things that seem preferable. There have been many critiques of rational choice theory because people appear to choose things that are not in their interest but the general population would probably admit they would act in a way consistent with this model. The confusing part of the name is the “rational” part which implies that humans are rational and carefully way all decisions and their consequences. This, however, does not mean that people are all reflective thinkers but that they have the ability to weigh and consider options and make a choice that they think will benefit them.

The observation of Jay is that countries do not seem to adopt for very long a government that is at odds with their interests. He referred to the people of America as intelligent and well-informed. These are preconditions for a healthy democratic society. Could this be said of the general population of Americans today? Certainly the United States is educated and has great access to information and a constant flow of “news” information but that is not necessarily equivalent to being intelligent and well-informed. We may have the same capacity for intelligence but we are greatly disadvantaged when we compare our minds today—even those who might be considered very intelligent—to the intelligent minds of the past. We have more information coming to us than we could ever process but we are not necessarily more informed because of it. This is something each individual American has the chance to change for themselves and we can take responsibility to become the type of Americans Jay describes—intelligent and well-informed.

The fact that the Americans were intelligent and well-informed people, tending to choose that which is in their interest, lends legitimacy to the fact that they desired to be united under a federal government. Not only should it be a federal government but one that is vested with sufficient powers.

We read that the purpose of the federal government is two-fold. It is to be put in place and vested with enough power for general purposes—those things which concern the federal government itself and the more individual issues—and for national purposes—thing that have some sort of relation to the country as a whole.

“The more attentively I consider and investigate the reasons which appear to have given birth to this opinion, the more I become convinced that they are cogent and conclusive.”—John Jay, The Same Subject Continued, Federalist No. 3, p. 9 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Jay assures the readers that the more he studies this subject the more confident he is in the Constitution and the more he is convinced that the Union under the federal government is necessary. Jay had been convinced and continued to be convinced. He mentioned that he believed that the ideas were cogent, that is, convincing, clear, believable, forcible. He also mentioned that he believed they were conclusive, that is, leading to a clear conclusion, settled.

“Among the many objects to which a wise and free people find it necessary to direct their attention, that of providing for their safety seems to be the first.”—John Jay, The Same Subject Continued, Federalist No. 3, p. 9 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

There are many things which people would have to look to in order to create a good government but Jay argues that the issue of safety was the primary one. This is one of the primary roles of government and ones of the expectations that we hold for our government. Other things cannot be established or maintained without safety. The government loses legitimacy if it cannot provide security for itself.

“At present I mean only to consider it as it respects security for the preservation of peace and tranquility, as well against dangers, from foreign arms and influence, as against dangers arising from domestic causes.”—John Jay, The Same Subject Continued, Federalist No. 3, p. 9 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Jay limited himself to some particular aspects of security. The focus of Jay was on the protection the federal government would provide from foreign nations as well as from domestic dangers. Jay considered the new government under the Constitution to be superior in providing security to the whole country.

“Let us therefore proceed to examine whether the people are not right in their opinion, that a cordial union under an efficient government, affords them the best security that can be devised against hostilities from abroad.”—John Jay, The Same Subject Continued, Federalist No. 3, pp. 9-10 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

The more specific aspect of security that Jay calls the readers to examine in this particular paper is whether a union under an efficient government provides more security from foreign hostilities than the then-present system. Not only did Jay think that the system of government would be better but he believed that it would actually be the best—compared to all others—for providing safety from outside.

The question that is here posed to the readers is whether or not the national government, unified under the Constitution, will provide a better force for the security of the people as a whole or whether they would be better off with the then-current system of separated states. As reading keep in mind the question: Which type of national government is better for the security of all the American people, a united one or a confederacy?

“The just causes of war for the most part arise either from violations of treaties, or from direct violence. America has already formed treaties with no less than six foreign nations, and all of them, except Prussia, are maritime, and therefore able to annoy and injure us…”—John Jay, The Same Subject Continued, Federalist No. 3, p. 10 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Jay considered some things that could lead to war between countries and what just causes of war would be. He points out two possible options that often lead to a justified war. Those two things mentioned are violations of some sort of treaty or from a direct attack. These are two possibilities that Jay saw as realistic in the future. For one thing, he mentioned that America was already involved in multiple treaties with at least six nations and all of those nations had access to the ocean (“maritime”), meaning they were not landlocked, and therefore they could potentially “annoy” or “injure” America. Jay believed the answer to this was not to begin arming and creating a standing army but rather to have an efficient government under the Union and the Constitution.

“It is of high importance to the peace of America, that she observe the law of nations towards all these powers; and to me it appears evident that this will be more perfectly and punctually done by one national government, than it could be either by thirteen separate states, or by three or four distinct confederacies.”—John Jay, The Same Subject Continued, Federalist No. 3, p. 10 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

The peace of America is the ultimate desire and part of the requirement for it is that America observe the law of nations when it comes to dealing with foreign powers. The law of nations was an unwritten law of how nations were supposed to deal with each other in general. For example, nations were supposed to respect the sovereignty of others and other general principles like that. The law has developed further over time. The peace of America could be, as Jay said, accomplished more perfectly and punctually by a single national government. The government could do it more perfectly which means that they will have all the power and resources necessary to accomplish the tasks that they were established for. The government can also accomplish these goals more punctually which means they can do it in a more timely way. One single government has the advantage in this area because it would be easier for it to deal with foreign powers on behalf of the Union as opposed to thirteen different states or a few confederacies all dealing with foreign nations separately.

“When once an efficient national government is established, the best men in the country will not only consent to serve, but will also generally be appointed to manage it…”—John Jay, The Same Subject Continued, Federalist No. 3, p. 10 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Efficiency is part of the key language concerning arguments for the Constitution. The government of the time was a lot of things but it was definitely not efficient. This was a major selling point for the Constitution. Jay asserted that when that type of government was established that the “best men” of the country would not just consent to serve in it but would also be the type of men voted for in order to manage it. Do politics attract the best people to serve? Even in the last fifty years politics seem to have been giving lower esteem than they have had in the past. For example, consider these days how many parents want their child to be president or to go into politics. Is the political culture of America attractive to the “best” people? We may tend to be cynical here but we also have to question what type of things would have to change in order to make sure that the “best” people were attracted. The argument from Jay still stands, however, that efficient government is much more attractive to the best men who want to participate as opposed to the attraction of inefficient government.

“Hence it will result, that the administration, the political counsels, and the judicial decisions of the national government, will be more wise, systematical and judicious, than those of individual states, and consequently more satisfactory with respect to other nations, as well as more safe with respect to ourselves.”—John Jay, The Same Subject Continued, Federalist No. 3, p. 10 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

In the view of Jay, all the political institutions would be more legitimate if under one national government than outsourced out to separate states. This would also gain more status in the eyes of foreign nations. Other countries would theoretically be more inclined to take a united, national government more seriously than a confederacy or individual states. But that would not be the only benefit but it would be safe. There would be a more impartial party to judge between states when disputes would arise.

“Under the national government, treaties and articles of treaties, as well as the laws of nations, will always be expounded in one sense, and executed in the same manner: whereas adjudications on the same points and questions, in thirteen states, or in three or four confederacies, will not always accord or be consistent…”—John Jay, The Same Subject Continued, Federalist No. 3, pp. 10-11 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

If a national government was established according to the Constitution, Jay argues, there would be much more clarity with regards to treaties. It would be easier for a national, federal government to interpret the meaning of contracts and the laws of nations. If all the states were allowed to make and interpret contracts for themselves, according to their interests, they could also endanger the interests of other states. However, with a national government, in charge of treaties and regulating commerce, there is less room for confusion. States could not bid against each other for treaties with other foreign nations, states would not be able to act independently in a treaty deal that would be dangerous to the nation as a whole or other states, the interests of all would have a chance to be protected.

“The prospect of present loss or advantage, may often tempt the governing party in one or two states to swerve from good faith and justice;…those temptations not reaching the other states, and consequently having little or no influence on the national government, the temptations will be fruitless, and good faith and justice preserved.”—John Jay, The Same Subject Continued, Federalist No. 3, p. 11 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

States or individuals who hold power in states, when not reined in by some form of national government, would be inclined—as almost all people would be—to pursue their own interests as opposed to the interests of the whole. Under the pressure of losing something or losing an advantage of some sort they may not be able to make unbiased decisions. The argument is that the federal government would not have the same interests as the individual states—they would not have skin in the game in the dispute—therefore they could make a more just and fair decision from the outside.

“…the national government, not being affected by those local circumstances, will neither be induced to commit the wrong themselves, nor want power or inclination to prevent, or punish its commission by others.”—John Jay, The Same Subject Continued, Federalist No. 3, p. 11 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

There is significance here in what Jay writes. What he wanted his readers to take particular notice of was the simple fact that the government was not as influenced by local circumstances and could remain disinterested from the outside. This did not mean that the government would be uninterested but disinterested, which means that they would be able to make a wise decision since their direct interest is not involved. The national government would have less reason to favor one state over another or punish one state over the other, therefore, they would be more likely to decide cases fairly. They would also hold the power to be able to prevent wrong or punish those who commit wrong.

“Such violences are more frequently occasioned by the passions and interests of a part than of the whole of one or two states than of the union.”—John Jay, The Same Subject Continued, Federalist No. 3, p. 11 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Those type of missteps by people or states tend to be by a percentage or fraction rather than the whole amount. This is not because the whole is unbiased, this is not because the whole does not have interests, this is not because those who are unified into a whole suddenly agree on everything, this is not because men would have some sense of higher calling or start to act in a good and just way because of their positions, but it is rather that the interests of the whole temper, cool, balance, and keep in check the interests of the part.

Divergent interests are less likely to gain power over the whole. Some portion or fraction of a whole group of people or a country may have some desire and if they were totally independent they could carry it out and implement it on those who do not want it, however, when the interests of everyone are considered it is less likely desires like that will gain a foothold.

The interests of the part can still, theoretically, be carried out but only if the ideas are good enough to be attractive to the whole and in their interest. Instead of a small portion of the whole dragging the whole into something—like dragging the whole nation into a war through the individual conflict of a state or states—the whole mediates the discussion and makes the final decision. In the same example of war, then, if one state is involved in conflict the national, federal government can decide whether it will come to its defense or whether it has unlawfully involved itself in a conflict in which it had no business. Instead of one state making a bad treaty with a foreign nation and taking the whole country with it when no one is benefitted by that states particular interest, the national government could act on behalf of all the states in order to incorporate interests but also restrain them.

“Not a single Indian war has yet been produced by aggressions of the present federal government, feeble as it is; but there are several instances of Indian hostilities having been provoked by the improper conduct of individual states, who, either unable or unwilling to restrain or punish offences, have given occasion to the slaughter of many innocent inhabitants.”—John Jay, The Same Subject Continued, Federalist No. 3, pp. 11-12 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

It should be noted that statements like this do not fit into the popular narrative of America conquest that is extremely common today. This might be why some readers would scoff at this quote even though they may not have specific historical evidence to the contrary. The very fact that Jay, a major leader who is trying to convince the people of New York to adopt the Constitution, mentions the welfare of the Indians and the atrocities committed against them in warfare is itself a critique of the idea that America just systematically obliterated the Indians for personal gain. But I digress since the history of the Native Americans is not the central issue here.

The point Jay made was that the states would be more likely to participate in what might be termed unrestricted Indian warfare, war with the Indians, rather than the national government. States did not intervene in these cases either because they were not willing or because they were not able. They either lacked the desire to intervene or lacked the power.

“…nothing can so effectually obviate that danger [that of war with foreign countries through their proxies in bordering states], as a national government, whose wisdom and prudence will not be diminished by the passions which actuate the parties immediately interested.”—John Jay, The Same Subject Continued, Federalist No. 3, p. 12 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

There were risks during the time of the establishment of the Constitution of foreign nations who had control of the territory surrounding America and there was also the risk of one state or a few states getting into a conflict with them. The national government would have the benefit of being removed from the direct conflict and would not have any direct interest except for protecting all the states of the Union, therefore, wars of that nature would be less common.

“But not only fewer just causes will be given by the national government, but it will also be more in their power to accommodate and settle them amicably.”—John Jay, The Same Subject Continued, Federalist No. 3, p. 12 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

There would not just be less of these conflicts to deal with that would be prevented by the unified national government under the Constitution but, Jay argues, that the national government would be in a better position, when conflicts did arise, to handle them. They also would be in a better position to handle them peaceably.

“They will be more temperate and cool, and in that respect, as well as in others, will be more in capacity to act with circumspection than the offending state. The pride of states as well as of men, naturally disposes them to justify all their actions, and opposes their acknowledging, correcting, or repairing their errors and offences. The national government in such cases will not be affected by this pride, but will proceed with moderation and candour, to consider and decide on the means most proper to extricate them from the difficulties that threaten them.”—John Jay, The Same Subject Continued, Federalist No. 3, p. 12 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

The argument is that the federal government will be steadier in addressing these issues than multiple state governments or a confederacy involving a few states. Jay makes the case that the federal government will be more “temperate” and “cool.” Temperate implies that the government will be more prudent. Cool implies that the government will be opposed to being hot-tempered and will not quickly or rashly react. The government would be able to act in a more responsible way if it was given the power of the Union.

States as well as people tend to make them want to justify their own actions. This means that people will always try to rationalize their own behavior and choose the side of their own interest. It is also unlikely that those pursuing their interests will acknowledge that they are wrong or correcting their actions. Jay believed that the national government would not have this same pride but instead would be enabled to act with moderation—self-limiting—and also with candor—honesty and boldness of speech.

“…acknowledgements, explanations and compensations are often accepted as satisfactory from a strong united nation, which would be rejected as unsatisfactory if offered by a state or confederacy of little consideration or power.”—John Jay, The Same Subject Continued, Federalist No. 3, p. 12 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Jay finished this paper by giving an example. His example is that certain actions are accepted from a strong, united nation that are an insult from small, divided states. He provides a historical example of Genoa in 1685 and how they offended Louis XIV, king of France, and since they were a small state they sent him some sort of small compensation but he would not accept that type of gift from a powerful country like Britain or Spain.[1]

[1] John Jay, The Same Subject Continued, Federalist No. 3, p. 12 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]


Commentary on Federalist #2

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Commentary on Federalist #2

The second essay of The Federalist is one of the few composed by John Jay. After reading it I kind wished that John Jay had composed a few more of the essays than he had the opportunity to. This paper seems a little bit shorter than the others but his writing is clear and has a flavor distinct from that of Hamilton and Madison. If someone has read some of the more well-known papers before like Federalist #10, #50, #70 then that reader will be more familiar with the writing voice of Madison and Hamilton but the obscure John Jay composed some of the more obscure papers so the reader is not usually accustomed to his voice and style.

This particular paper is said at the top to be about dangers from foreign force and influence. If someone just read the second paper in The Federalist they would not see that it has anything to do with foreign force and influence. This shows that the second paper has to be understood in the context of the next couple papers which are also composed by John Jay and continue the same subject. In fact, John Jay will continue to elaborate on this subject through the fifth paper and Hamilton does not come in until the sixth.

This post will follow the same method as the previous post by putting quotes of the text from The Federalist first for the reader to examine then follow it by notes and general comments. Remember the three questions being used: What does it say? What does it mean? Why does it matter?

The text of Federalist No. 2.

The Gravitas

“When the people of America reflect, that the question now submitted to their determination, is one of the most important that has engaged, or can well engage, their attention, the propriety of their taking a very comprehensive, as well as a very serious, view of it, must be evident.”—John Jay, Federalist No. 2, Concerning Dangers from Foreign Force and Influence, For the Independent Journal. Wednesday, October 31, 1787, p. 5 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

The implication of this first sentence is that if the people of America grasp the gravitas of what they are called to consider—the Constitution and the Union—then it would be obvious to them that they need to devote their careful attention to it. The question that the Americans have before them is whether or not they will accept the new Constitution and become a Union under it. John Jay has no reservations about calling this issue one of the important that has, in the past, or can, in the present or future, engage the minds of the people.

Since Jay understood this issue to be of such great magnitude he called the people to examine the arguments for the Constitution comprehensively and seriously. To understand it comprehensively means to read and understand all the arguments and look at the argument as a whole. This means that nothing should be left out and that all angles should be considered. To understand it seriously means to realize that consequences for the decision and the weight of responsibility on those who would decide. In Jay’s view this would be the only proper way to go about judging the Constitution.

It is worth noting that even though this is the first sentence of the paper it is also the first paragraph. This means that this is a single, introductory thought summed up in a sentence that ends the paragraph. This shows the importance of what John Jay believes that he wrote about is the first sentence. Keep in mind that structure actually matters a lot for meaning.

The Necessity

“Nothing is more certain than the indispensable necessity of government; and it is equally undeniable, that whenever and however it is instituted, the people must cede to it some of their natural rights, in order to vest it with requisite powers.”—John Jay, Federalist No. 2, Concerning Dangers from Foreign Force and Influence, For the Independent Journal. Wednesday, October 31, 1787, p. 5 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Here John Jay makes two foundational statements that will have to be assumed to undergird the rest of his argument. These two things are to be assumed as true according to Jay and he believed they were self-evident. They are the necessity of government and the fact that people must give up some rights in order to empower that necessary government. Notice that Jay is so confident in the truth of these statements and the fact that they will not be opposed that he does not take the time to justify and defend them.

The first statement has to do with the necessity of government itself. The reader should take a moment to pause and reflect on the first clause of this quote that ends in the semicolon. “Nothing is more certain than the indispensable necessity of government…” Jay is totally convinced of this and boldly declares it. He calls the need for government “indispensable” which means that it is something that cannot be done away with. The necessity of government does not go away with time and changing circumstances.

Obviously the Founders were not anti-government. They were very concerned that there be put in place an adequate, energetic and healthy government but they were definitely opposed to certain kinds of government. The Founders were especially suspicious of government that could lead to tyranny or anarchy. They viewed government as necessary for any healthy society for the purpose of keeping order and ruling by the law.

The second statement has to do with the rights of the people in relation to that necessary government. In order for any government to survive people cannot have absolute rights. This did not mean that the government could extend beyond what it should and that all people should have the rights of life, liberty and property. The fact remains, however, that these are not totally absolute rights even in a constitutional republic. People consent to live in a society together under law and that means that laws restrict liberty to some extent.

“It is well worthy of consideration, therefore, whether it would conduce more to the interest of the people of America, that they should, to all general purposes, be one nation, under one federal government, than that they should divide themselves into separate confederacies, and give to the head of each, the same kind of powers which they are advised to place in one national government.”—John Jay, Federalist No. 2, Concerning Dangers from Foreign Force and Influence, For the Independent Journal. Wednesday, October 31, 1787, p. 5 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

The situation that the people of America faced, as presented by John Jay, was whether it would be in their interest to be one, united nation, with one federal government as opposed to a confederation of united state governments. The states are extremely crucial but they are not totally sovereign and needed a government nationally in order to provide security.

New Voices and the Challenge

“It has until lately been a received and uncontradicted opinion, that the prosperity of the people of America depended on their continuing firmly united,…”—John Jay, Federalist No. 2, Concerning Dangers from Foreign Force and Influence, For the Independent Journal. Wednesday, October 31, 1787, p. 5 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Jay claimed that that until recently in his time no one had contradicted or been opposed to the idea that the American people could only achieve prosperity by remaining united and coming under a Union through the Constitution. The implication was that only once the Constitution began to be introduced did opposing voices come out against the Constitution.

“…our best and wisest citizens have been constantly directed to that object. But politicians now appear, who insist that this opinion is erroneous, and that instead of looking for safety and happiness in union, we ought to seek it in a division of the states into distinct confederacies or sovereignties.”—John Jay, Federalist No. 2, Concerning Dangers from Foreign Force and Influence, For the Independent Journal. Wednesday, October 31, 1787, p. 5 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Referring to those fifty-five men at the Constitutional Convention in 1787 Jay calls them the “best” and “wisest” citizens. Obviously this is a subjective judgment that cannot be measured or quantified but it can definitely be argued that there was no one more capable in that time to accomplish that task than those men. There is always the repetition of the popular saying, “The Constitution was just written by a lot of wealthy, white men.” That is true to an extent but these men chose to act in their time to create a new government that was already seen as radical for the time they were in. This point can be debated further but it is not necessary for understanding The Federalist. It can just be noted that being white, wealthy or a man does not bar someone from discovering political truth. Notice, also, that they are not just called the best and wisest men but rather the best and wisest “citizens.” They were participating parties in the new government they were aiming to create and hoping would be adopted.

These men gave careful attention to the prospect of creating a new government under the Constitution. Following that, Jay argues, other politicians emerged who preferred not to adopt the Constitution. The dichotomy that Jay presents is that these politcians prefer lack of safety and happiness that they would have in a Union and prefer instead division between the states.

“…it certainly would not be wise in the people at large to adopt these new political tenets, without being fully convinced that they are founded in truth and sound policy.”—John Jay, Federalist No. 2, Concerning Dangers from Foreign Force and Influence, For the Independent Journal. Wednesday, October 31, 1787, p. 5 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Jay was speaking of those who had the “new” political views of being opposed to Union and the Constitution a few years after being united in war together, living together on the same continent, having such similar backgrounds, and experiencing all the inconveniences of the Articles of Confederation. He said that those who espoused such views against the Constitution and against the Union should be absolutely sure of their position. He wanted them to be convinced that if that was going to be the path they wanted to take that it was based on facts and reflected good government policy. Obviously Jay and others who were for the new Constitution were not convinced of either of those things and, in fact, were arguing the opposite.

Aspects of Oneness

“It has often given me pleasure to observe, that independent America was not composed of detached and distant territories, but that one connected, fertile, wide spreading country, was the portion of our western sons of liberty.”—John Jay, Federalist No. 2, Concerning Dangers from Foreign Force and Influence, For the Independent Journal. Wednesday, October 31, 1787, p. 6 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Jay makes the simple point that America is one connected land that offers many different things from many different places. The territories are right next to each other and this shows the naturalness of a Union.

“With equal pleasure I have as often taken notice, that Providence has been pleased to give this one connected country, to one united people; a people descended from the same ancestors, speaking the same language, professing the same religion, attached to the same principles of government, very similar in their manners and customs, and who, by their joint counsels, arms and efforts, fighting side by side throughout a long and bloody war, have nobly established their general liberty and independence.”—John Jay, Federalist No. 2, Concerning Dangers from Foreign Force and Influence, For the Independent Journal. Wednesday, October 31, 1787, p. 6 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Jay points out that the country seems to be already connected but further than that the peopled seemed to be united. Keep in mind that when the Declaration of Independence was signed and the American colonies broke away from England they were not yet the “United States of America” they were the “united States of America.” The focus was on the independence of the states themselves, united in becoming independent but not yet united in a Union. The people were already united in one way yet they had not yet become officially united under a single, national Union.

Some of the points that Jay lays out about the things that led to the country becoming united under the Constitution and these were that the people had a similar descent from ancestors (European), that they spoke the same language, that they professed the same religion, that they were attached to the same principles of government, and even had the same manners and customs. A lot of this is true but even at that point in American history it is not truly accurate to believe that everyone was that homogenous especially in the area of religion. In very broad terms what Jay said was true but it has its limits. This statement should simply be viewed as an exaggeration in order to make a point. Jay was leading up to saying that the people had just fought together in a bloody war so it only made sense that they should join together in a Union. In his mind the people of America were already part of a union in spirit if not yet under a Union officially under a new Constitution. The war was to establish liberty and independence and Jay believed that the Constitution would be the best way to maintain it.

Destiny

“This country and this people seem to have been made for each other, and it appears as if it was the design of Providence, that an inheritance so proper and convenient for a band of brethren, united to each other by the strongest ties, should never be split into a number of unsocial, jealous and alien sovereignties.”—John Jay, Federalist No. 2, Concerning Dangers from Foreign Force and Influence, For the Independent Journal. Wednesday, October 31, 1787, p. 6 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Jay employs the language of a “match made in Heaven.” He claims that the country itself and the people were made for each other and God brought them together. Notice that he uses the term “Providence” throughout to imply that God sovereignly had brought together America in order to be one Union. Jay argues that the uniting of the people seems to be the clearly intended destiny and that no one should desire—when the signs are so clear—to be separated. His language speaks of missing a chance that is so perfectly laid before the people of America. He could not fathom that the people should try to live as their own sovereign states without a clearly united government.

One People

“To all general purposes we have uniformly been one people… As a nation we have made peace and war: as a nation we have vanquished our common enemies: as a nation we have formed alliances and made treaties, and entered into various compacts and conventions with foreign states.”—John Jay, Federalist No. 2, Concerning Dangers from Foreign Force and Influence, For the Independent Journal. Wednesday, October 31, 1787, p. 6 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Jay claims that the people of America have always been, for all intents and purposes, one people. Some examples of how the people became one are provided. The people made peace and war as a nation. They did not make war as thirteen individual states but together with a united front. There is nothing that can unite people together more than fighting together in a war except for possibly surviving the war together and gaining peace together. Not only that, but Jay points out that they formed alliances and made treaties. He was making the point that it sounds like a nation already. One of the issues of the Articles on Confederation was that there was no regulation of commerce, therefore, there were issues of individual states having different currencies and not being able to make solid treaties with other nations. The Constitution would provide more legitimacy to the fact that these colonies had just won a war and gained a name for themselves internationally.

The Argument

“A strong sense of the value and blessings of Union induced the people, at a very early period, to institute a federal government to preserve and perpetuate it. They formed it almost as soon as they had a political existence; nay, at a time, when their habitations were in flames, when many of them were bleeding in the field, and when the progress of hostility and desolation left little room for those calm and mature inquiries and reflections, which must ever precede the formation of a wise and well balanced government for a free people. It is not to be wondered at that a government instituted in times so inauspicious, should on experiment be found greatly deficient and inadequate to the purpose it was intended to answer.”—John Jay, Federalist No. 2, Concerning Dangers from Foreign Force and Influence, For the Independent Journal. Wednesday, October 31, 1787, p. 6-7 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

All of the portions of these papers can be presented as important in one way or another but not all of them are equally important. The statement above, however, is one of the more important statements to understand. Since it is long the reader can be tempted to pass by it through just skimming it but the argument that Jay provides here is really the crux of what he is trying to say and why he believes in the Constitution.

He argues that the people had a strong sense of being blessed and that they already had valued Union. He argues that this was already the case from a very early point. The people of the united States were already “united.” They saw the necessity of coming together under a government. They also believed it was essential to preserve and perpetuate the federal government, not just institute it. All this had already been done after declaring Independence and under the Articles on Confederation.

Jay argues that the men who formed the first federal government of America formed it as soon as they could out of necessity. They formed this government in the context of being at war with the British. The official war had not started yet when this government was being formed, however, independence from Britain was already being discussed and places like Boston already were experiencing conflict with the British. This is what Jay was referring to when he speaks of houses being burned and bleeding in the field.

Jay acknowledges the spirit of what those men did from the beginning. They united the country even sought to organize some type of federal government even while they were under those circumstances. His point here is that that was essential but not sufficient.

Some type of workable federal government was formed, yes, but it was under the conditions of a major conflict and did not allow as much time for “…calm and mature inquiries and reflection…” which are necessary for good government. The federal government that had united the people at the time had served its limited purpose, Jay argues, and now was the time to accept something better: the Constitution. The Constitution had brought together men to debate, question, inquire and reflect. Not being under pressure from a war, these men were able to take the time and thought necessary to construct a new government based on republican principles, ruled by laws and not men, under the Constitution.

What would you rather have, a government put together with people who understood that they were entering a war with a formidable foreign power or a government formed over months of careful thought and reflection that did not have that type of pressure on it?

Jay comments that he is not at all surprised that a government thrown together under those type of circumstances—the Articles of Confederation—would later to be shown to be insufficient for actual governing in time of peace. The Articles were so severely lacking, Jay argues, that they needed to be bulldozed and replaced by something better.

If I may take a little creative license that I believe is in the spirit of Jay but not in the words of Jay, I can see the Articles of Confederation being necessary for uniting the people initially but only serving for a limited time. The analogy that can be applied here is that the Articles of Confederation can be considered the engagement and the Constitution can be the marriage. Engagements are fun, everyone enjoys them, likes to hear the stories of how they were planned, but they are not durable. Long engagements are sometimes necessary but they are not usually recommended by anyone. They are also limiting. However, at the end of the engagement it is superseded by the thing that is the ultimate point of the engagement: the marriage. The comparison can be accepted or rejected but it is just another way to consider the argument Jay produced.

Constitutional Convention

“Still continuing no less attached to union, than enamoured of liberty, they observed the danger which immediately threatened the former, and more remotely the latter; and being persuaded that ample security for both, could only be found in a national government more wisely framed, they, as with one voice, convened the late convention at Philadelphia, to take that important subject under consideration.”—John Jay, Federalist No. 2, Concerning Dangers from Foreign Force and Influence, For the Independent Journal. Wednesday, October 31, 1787, p. 7 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

While recognizing the problems of the current federal government of the time, the people were still committed to a Union and still in love with liberty. These were two values that the people were not at all interested in giving up. The issue was, Jay argues, that the form of government before the Constitution threatened both union in the short term and liberty in the long-term. Both of those these required security and that could only be found in the formation of a new government tailor-made to meet those ends. Therefore, that led to the Constitutional Convention in 1787.

“This convention, composed of men who possessed the confidence of the people, and many of whom had become highly distinguished by their patriotism, virtue, and wisdom, in times which tried the souls of men, undertook the arduous task. In the mild season of peace, with minds unoccupied by other subjects, they passed many months in cool uninterrupted and daily consultations; and finally, without having been awed by power, or influenced by any passion, except love for their country, they presented and recommended to the people the plan produced by their joint and very unanimous councils.”—John Jay, Federalist No. 2, Concerning Dangers from Foreign Force and Influence, For the Independent Journal. Wednesday, October 31, 1787, p. 7 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

This is a simple description of the Convention. Jay saw the men who attended as the best, most qualified men for the job. Arguments could be made against that statement, however, it would have been difficult to find more qualified men than attended the Constitutional Convention. This does not mean, however, that it had all the qualified men who probably should have been there. Remember even John Adams and Thomas Jefferson were not able to attend. Jay describes the task that these men undertook as “arduous” implying the difficulty of the work that they had cut out for themselves.

The benefits of these men forming a new government this time—as opposed to the conditions under which the first federal government of America was formed—were that they were in a mild season of peace rather than war. This arguably led to better decisions for the purpose and form of government. Another one is that they had all travelled there for this task, therefore, they could focus on it exclusively instead of having to fit it into their schedules. A third benefit is that they met almost daily. The consistency allowed them to understand the context of all the arguments and concepts better than taking so much time off and returning to a subject. The last thing that is mentioned by Jay is that these men did not do this out of compulsion or because they were forced and they were not influenced by some sort of inordinate or inappropriate passion that clouded their judgment. The only passion they are said to have had that drove them was love for their country.

“…this plan is only recommended, not imposed, yet let it be remembered, that it is neither recommended to blind approbation, nor to blind reprobation; but to that sedate and candid consideration, which the magnitude and importance of the subject demand, and which it certainly ought to receive.”—John Jay, Federalist No. 2, Concerning Dangers from Foreign Force and Influence, For the Independent Journal. Wednesday, October 31, 1787, p. 7 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

The Constitution was still an option at this point, Jay admits, but he wanted to make it very clear that the Constitution was not created through blind approbation—approval or commendation. This means that they did not just blindly approve the Constitution without thinking and carefully considering the arguments. Jay also wanted to make clear that they did not recommend the Constitution by blind reprobation—disapproval, condemnation, rejection. This means that the Constitution did not just come out of rejecting things of the past without thinking carefully. I had to look up these words to make sure that I knew what they meant. Never be too humble to use a dictionary. As opposed to that, Jay says, calm and straightforward consideration of the concept of a new government was the method taken. These men gave the subject the attention that it demanded.

This plan was recommended and Jay hoped that the people would keep in mind all the thought that was put into it and that the people would receive it in that context. He comments, however, with some pessimism that “…it is more to be wished than expected that it may be so considered and examined.”[1] He said that experience had taught him that people may not necessarily be inclined to think carefully about all the options and take into consideration all the concepts proposed.

Congress of 1774

This Congress was formed out of necessity from imminent danger of war with the British. The body recommended things that were wise for the time but it had certain limitations.

“It is worthy of remark, that not only the first, but every succeeding congress, as well as the late convention, have invariably joined with the people in thinking that the prosperity of America depended on its Union.”—John Jay, Federalist No. 2, Concerning Dangers from Foreign Force and Influence, For the Independent Journal. Wednesday, October 31, 1787, p. 8 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

All meetings had the idea of Union in mind. All roads, according to Jay, led to Union. All American prosperity in the immediate time and in the long run were tied to the Union.

Conclusion

Jay was concerned that those against the Constitution were putting the Union in jeopardy. His hope was for the American people who have clarity of thought and consider the benefits of the Constitution.

“…I sincerely wish that it may be as clearly forseen [sic] by every good citizen, that whenever the dissolution of the union arrives, America will have reason to exclaim in the words of the Poet, ‘Farewell! a long farewell, to all my greatness.’”—John Jay, Federalist No. 2, Concerning Dangers from Foreign Force and Influence, For the Independent Journal. Wednesday, October 31, 1787, p. 9 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]

Jay hoped that the citizens would have foresight in considering the Constitution. Saying goodbye to the Union and to the Constitution would be saying goodbye to the greatness of America. Seeing the result of history, that the Constitution was adopted, is a benefit we possess that Jay did not but he had foresight of the result. His dire prophecy did not come to pass.

[1] John Jay, Federalist No. 2, Concerning Dangers from Foreign Force and Influence, For the Independent Journal. Wednesday, October 31, 1787, p. 7 [Link(s): http://files.libertyfund.org/files/788/0084_LFeBk.pdf]